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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro_The_Swift View Post
    you are right John,,

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    but they'd rather do it that way than have your wheel fall off
    . Which is their worst case scenario.

    They dont really care about you trying to undo the nuts.
    That doesn't always follow.
    I know of one case of overtightened wheel nuts on a Disco which resulted in three studs on the same wheel breaking in a remote part of the NT. It was a slow trip into Darwin hoping that the remaining two nuts would hold.
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    A subject I have often thought about. Perhaps it might be an idea to learn the nut torque setting suggested by Landrover and tell the tyre shop to torque to that setting by hand while you watch. Seems I've got some research to do it unless some one has a quick link to settings????

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    Further to this subject. Earlier today I phoned the company's national customer service manager and left a message on his phone. He called me back a short while ago, and agreed that I had reason to complain.

    The end result is they are refunding the cost of the repair, sending a $50 gift voucher and requiring the Yass people to attend training on tightening wheel nuts.

    My owner's manual does not give a torque figure for the 110, although I remember one tyre place saying that their book of torque figures give it as 85ft lbs. This sounds a bit high to me - the factory wheel brace for the 110 only provides a lever length for tightening of about six inches, doubled for undoing by a folding extension.

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    good work.keep them honest

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    I am pretty sure that all tyre places must use a tension wrench for checking
    wheel nuts. As workplace regulations specify that now. Last month when i had the disco"s tyres replaced they used a special tension wrench and i asked why. They said they must do it by law now. They have been doing the ones on the trucks with a big one for years...........

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    where i was working they did not use one but they were just a general mechanic place but still were taking and doing up wheel nuts all the time

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
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    My owner's manual does not give a torque figure for the 110, although I remember one tyre place saying that their book of torque figures give it as 85ft lbs. This sounds a bit high to me - the factory wheel brace for the 110 only provides a lever length for tightening of about six inches, doubled for undoing by a folding extension.

    John
    The Rave Manual for the D2 gives wheel nut torque of 140Nm (103ft lbs) - this would be for the alloy wheel nuts.
    I have read somewhere, but can't find it ATM, that the specified torque for the steel wheel nuts was 80 or 90ft lbs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tank View Post
    John, one of those 12V Impact rattle guns will get just about any nut off, best $80 to $90 you'll ever spend, Regards Frank.
    Sometimes not even a medium duty rattle gun will work. The last tyre shop i went to tightened some of my wheel nuts so tight that not even my air powered rattle gun could get them off! My rattle gun is rated to 240lb-ft (325nm)! Some wheel nuts came off really easily, but the others just wouldn't budge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    Earlier today I phoned the company's national customer service manager and left a message on his phone. He called me back a short while ago, and agreed that I had reason to complain.

    The end result is they are refunding the cost of the repair, sending a $50 gift voucher and requiring the Yass people to attend training on tightening wheel nuts.
    I like this approach as there is a real chance that some good will come of the complaint. A much better result than just abusing someone.
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    Shortly after the local B** J*** shop did a wheel alignment and tyre rotation on my County, I had it up on the hoist to check wheel bearings before a trip. A 1/2" drive air impact wrench would not move most of the nuts. Had to go and borrow a 3/4" drive which struggled with some. Would have been just bloody great to get a flat down the Diamantina.

    Not a sign of anti-seize being used either.

    I went back and made my thoughts known to the manager. I suggested that IF they got any more business from me then I would expect to see the fitter loosen the nuts with the on-board lug nut wrench and then re-tighten them using a torque wrench.
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