Thread: Done my dosh??

That's why there are 3 important letters in the alphabet, C, O & D. Put them all together and it spells " you get your money when i get my stuff!!!

Cheers

Andrew


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Originally Posted by rangieman

xxxxxxxxxx was only a navigator for xxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxx , So you would not be funding his outback trip
In what everone has said about said person he has a reputation for folding buisness ventures then reapearing , i my self would only deal in person and not over line or the phone with him to be sure

In which case I hope someone does find him & bust him one on his nose!!!!!!!!

Armadillo, I have been ripped before & it isn't a good feeling. Hope it all works out for ya!

once again, do not name people.

it can have repercussions way beyond the scope of the conversation at hand.

if you want to name them do it somewhere like notgoodenough.org where they are in a position to actually help...

At the risk of being banned... these are Hobzee's words.

The news is not good. Angella P/L T/As The 4WD Shop (4H) voluntarily appointed Vince & Associates as Liquidators. We have not traded in the past few weeks and were not in a position to trade, pay, refund or comment while such discussions were being held.

Before GFC we were rocking. GFC hit and it wasn't so much people not spending at the time but the USD falling to 50c that drove prices through the roof (look at Hi mounts - we sold 15 a month and then 1 per 3 months) and it was the price hikes that killed sales by a half. Then in Sep last year ebay changed it's search criteria to best match and that halved our sales yet again. We resized - smaller factory and dropped some good staff saving $25K per month and had been making good progress. But some 2 weeks ago we were suspended by ebay due to lower star ratings and that pretty much screwed us. The boys resigned and immediatley upon returning from OBC (we left early) I made the first appointment with the liquidators and reported that I was no longer able to pay my bills. It's against the law to trade in this predicament.

To set the record straight I have nothing to do with 4x4store or with Johnno in cranbourne. Stuf4blokes was an attempt by my sales guys to get some sales happening while I was away. They did a good job, they only listed product we had in stock and every sale was honoured. I withdrew all active listings in that store when the liquidators said I shouldn't continue trading. So that store is now inactive but by choice.

Also, I have heard rumours that Cliffhanger is off - This is a rediculous claim. Cliffhanger is on more than ever (it's my only job right now) and in fact we are considering having a second cliffhanger for 2011 in Sep/Oct and have already begun talks with CCDA and our major sponsors.

So where to from here? Everything is in the hands of the liquidators and no amount of begging or harrassement can change anything I'm afraid. Please remember that it is the business entity that is being wound up at this stage and not the person Steve Hobbs yet. I do have things like an old comp car and yes these are being sold to go towards debt relief but not by the liquidators as they are only engaged in the business assets.

There are not that many customers affected. What I suggest is that if you paid with Pay pal or via Credit Card then you seek refunds through their buyer guarantees straight away. If you can not then please send me a PM and I will make sure the liquidators are aware that you were not capable of getting a refund. No guarantees but it's the best I can offer right now.

Ebay have caused me a huge amount of grief of late. My advice to ebay buyers and sellers is to watch those star ratings - they can put sellers out of business. I'm sure that even the angriest customers wouldn't want to delibereatly bring this on and cause so much pain for so many innocent people.

For every supplier and customer affected by this there is a hard lump in my throat and a great deal of regret and remorse. Given that I know a lot of people and my business life and social life blend together I am finding this very hard to come to terms with. Many of my suppliers and customers are my friends (or were).

The Liquidators are :
Vince & Associates
email : kwright@vinceassociates.com.au
Ph : 03 9793 5588
They know me as Angella P/L.

Regretfully,

Hobzee

Cheers guys. Dispute has been lodged.

I have noticed that items are still being recieved by e-bay customers (up to 3 weeks late). So we may be lucky.................. but I won't hold my breath.

Originally Posted by Slunnie

At the risk of being banned... these are xxxxx,x words.

What did i say befor ,
He has the cheek to blame the GFC and ebay mmmmm be warned he will be back

and he's an accountant as well. should be able to balance the books

Originally Posted by rangieman

What did i say befor ,
He has the cheek to blame the GFC and ebay mmmmm be warned he will be back

i don't get on here often but noticed this thread.....

Seems like he's back already.....

Same lights logo, similar area, same images that the other store was using

eBay Seller: cougarlights: Cars, Bikes, Boats items on eBay Australia

I agree about the cop-out excuses as well. A drop ship, pay upon ordering style of business shouldn't have any problems with sound financial management.