ITT Whiskey

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Originally Posted by Seriestwo

I started drinking Scotch about 16 years ago, I started on the cheap stuff, ie Johnny Walker, famous grouse, black douglas and mcallums just to name a few. The i got a job and started to try more expensive scotches. I found that all the Johnny Walker whiskys taste practically the same just a little smoother when the price goes up. I have tried most of the range of scotch at Dan Murphys and I enjoyed most of them. Now here is the troubling part, one day I went into Dan Murphys and saw Bushmills malt (not a real expensive irish whiskey aged 10 years), I thought i have tried most of the other scotch whiskys here i might give the irish whiskey a go. Well to be honest it was the smoothest and best tasting whiskey I have tasted. I think it has something to do with the triple distillation. But now when i go back to drinking scotch whisky it seems to all taste like ash. I dont understand why but now I can only really enjoy irish whiskeys. It doesn't mean i dont drink scotch whisky it just means i dont enjoy is as much as i used to. which is a shame.

At the casino in Brisbane they have a wine and whisky bar

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The reason for that ash/burnt flavour is in the filtering (it's filtered through the peat smock)and to lovers of Scotch that is the flavour they enjoy along with other flavours, whereas Irish is filtered by not passing through the smoke and triple distilling making it smoother.

It's just what people prefer, both styles are good and the Scots and the Irish are the best at making whiskey.

Bourbon is not whiskey:p

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Originally Posted by Redback

The reason for that ash/burnt flavour is in the filtering (it's filtered through the peat smock)and to lovers of Scotch that is the flavour they enjoy along with other flavours, whereas Irish is filtered by not passing through the smoke and triple distilling making it smoother.

It's just what people prefer, both styles are good and the Scots and the Irish are the best at making whiskey.

Bourbon is not whiskey:p

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I think you'll find the addition of caramel adds to the perception of smoothness and sweetness.

The Irish might triple distill but I'd bet the "sweet spot" is a mile wide.

Do they actually filter Scotch? I thought that the peat smoke was used to stop germination in the barley (Malting)....before it's mashed up The spirit that comes out of the still is technically clear......isn't it?

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Originally Posted by rockyroad

"the Irish invented it, the Scots perfected it.... and the Americans, well we won't go there."


As much as I like the Irish/Scottish whiskeys I find that If I try to drink them I end up with horrendous heart burn. The only whiskey I can drink now (and have grown very partial too) is Jack Daniels.

Knock JD if you must, but most if not all the Scottish and Irish distilleries buy JD barrels after they are finished with them.

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I think you'll find that might be true with cheap blended scotch, regarding the barrels but a high quality single should come from Spanish Sherry barrels....or so I read somewhere. I think it's Glenmorangie that even owns it's own oak plantations. Some distillers use Spanish Sherry and then new wood, as part of the aging process.

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Originally Posted by rockyroad

"the Irish invented it, the Scots perfected it.... and the Americans, well we won't go there."


As much as I like the Irish/Scottish whiskeys I find that If I try to drink them I end up with horrendous heart burn. The only whiskey I can drink now (and have grown very partial too) is Jack Daniels.

Knock JD if you must, but most if not all the Scottish and Irish distilleries buy JD barrels after they are finished with them.

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My apologies Rockyroad...this topic has stimulated me to the point of consulting an old book on Scotch Whisky....the Sherry Cask was an original idea but prohibitive costs and changing laws apparently drove the distillers down the Bourbon Cask road. So there is now French, Spanish and American timber involved. ;)

The Scot once triple distilled, but I think when they went away from pot stilling and started blending Whiskeys, and also started the way it's done now (forget the term) that was when they went away from triple distilling.

American oak is used now because of the the way whiskey is now made (blending) for a wider range of buyers, blending made the process quicker which was a Scottish invention and it also made Scotch whiskey more available and popular.

But malt whiskeys and pot stilled Irish whiskeys are still stored/aged in French oak and made in the old traditional method.

Baz.

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Originally Posted by Celtoid

My apologies Rockyroad...this topic has stimulated me to the point of consulting an old book on Scotch Whisky....the Sherry Cask was an original idea but prohibitive costs and changing laws apparently drove the distillers down the Bourbon Cask road. So there is now French, Spanish and American timber involved. ;)

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Wot he said.....

Dad has some at home from 3 different casks.... sherry, port and another. Plus some "normal" ones.

Me... i love my peaty ones.... yeah, it is the peat they use to fire the driers before the mash...... and yeah, the whisky is clear when it comes out of the stills.

Off to the nosing glass now.

Chris

:):woot::beer:...I can now say, with some conviction....that bakery hill stuff is not bad!....although experimentation will have to continue when more supply is sourced.....might have to make next round solo so it lasts longer:)

Ive had "tastings" at Lime Burners Distillery in Albany WA.
They have won some EXCELLENT international awards.
Great Southern Distilling Company - Whisky

EXPENSIVE!!!
Should have seen the look on the barmans face when I bought a shot of their award winner,had a sip,then asked for some Coke to go with it:D:D:D:cool::cool:
It was the smothest Ive ever tasted.Try to get in there for a shot or 2 when in Albany and its raining.
Andrew

Yes Australian whiskey is very expensive, the tax on the local product is a killer, almost half the cost you pay for a bottle:twisted:

Anyone remember Corio:D

Baz.

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Originally Posted by Redback

Yes Australian whiskey is very expensive, the tax on the local product is a killer, almost half the cost you pay for a bottle:twisted:

Anyone remember Corio:D

Baz.

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Yep, use to live around the corner.