Thread: (TAS) Garrett urged to step in over 4WD stoush

No doubt an old, ongoing argument for those of you local.....

Garrett urged to step in over 4WD stoush - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Arthur, you beat me by 5 minutes

(TAS) Garrett urged to step in over 4WD stoush

I will ask one of the moderators to merge the 2 threads

****ing hippy scum.

subasurf, I find your response offensive and not at all helpful to the cause. they have every right to their claims as you have to drive where you desire and I dont deny you that pleasure, however if we respond in your manner we will never reach mediation with the protesters or the authorities.

Originally Posted by subasurf

****ing hippy scum.

No, most of those that push these issues are extremely well educated upper middle class professionals that live in inner city suburbs

The lentil munching, basket weaving, kombi driving, tea cosy wearers only get involved after it becomes a public issue.

And i'm not sure where that leaves us lentil munching, herbal tea sipping, yoga practising, bush walking, tea cosy wearing, trades educated Defender drivers, but i'm sure someone could make a sub group or pigeon hole for us

And no, I don't have a beard or wear a pony tail, but I don't shave under my arms either


{edit} and actually looks like a fairly balanced news report to me too.

I personally wouldn't want to live in a place that didn't have input from both sides.
I drive a V8 4wd and work on the govt side of the mining industry and have an environmental degree and background. People from both sides give me crap.
From reading the article it may be that the Tas govt is trying to pass the buck but they may be telling the truth and want a resolution but are not willing to give one based on biased views of the 4wd clubs and their own govt environment dept. They have no doubt been burned before from previous decisions.

I am absolutely sure a lot of the greenie type have visions of people who drive four wheel drive vehicles as hoons who tear through the bush doing donuts with blokes hanging out of windows, beer cans in hand and whenever they see wildlife try and run over it. The fact there are responsible four wheel drive owners (such as the people on this Forum) who also care for our environment seems to escape them,most people who drive four wheel drive vehicles do so in a responsible manner but of cause there is a minor element out there that give the rest of us a bad name.
I am sure a lot of the greenie element mean well and their talks of closing up areas is well intentioned, so it is up to us to convince them that the environment is there to admire and enjoy, not to be locked away like some dark closet so that nobody can see and admire it.
I feel by calling greenies names as has already happened on this thread does not help our cause it is up to us to engage them in meaningful dialogue and of cause if we do see the hoon element detroying our bushland, come down on them like a ton of bricks. I have occassionally seen a four wheel drive absolutely covered in mud with young blokes hanging out and you wonder what damage they have done for their "jollies".
The environment should not be locked up, but enjoyed responsibly!!!