Cyclist aware drivers... are you one?

**rick130** · 28th April 2014, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

It is a thought, not fact and certainly not true.
Not all cyclists behave badly. A lot force their rights onto cars in an arrogant manner. I worked with a cyclist who did just that. It all came unstuck for him on his last day when he thought he had right of way over a bus. Whether he did or didn't have right of way is a moot point now.

I don't know why it may not be true, why are people so agro in general these days ?
It seems a lot of people need some sort of minority to vent at and feel superior to, and unfortunately a few couriers and bunch riders end up having the average driver tar everyone with the same brush, then a few newspaper columns and right wing shock jocks stir things up further.

What scares me when I'm riding is that the average punter just doesn't realise how vulnerable a cyclist/motor bike rider/horse rider is.

**Mick_Marsh** · 28th April 2014, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by rick130

C'mon Mick, an NLIS implant/tag isn't a rego plate......

No, but it is an identifying marker that is on a database and identifies the beast.
I think I'm being kind. I think some sort of identifying marker should be on the bikes. I'm not calling for a tag to be stapled to their heads but, if that's the way they want to go........

Oh, I would like to point out, I also cycle on occasions. I have three bikes. A Kia, a Peugeot and a Giant. I have been toying with getting another. I enjoy getting out on my bikes and never have a problem. I never ride more than two abreast, follow the road rules and always give way to anything bigger than me. I do not have a problem with putting a registration plate on my bikes should it be required.

**rick130** · 28th April 2014, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

No, but it is an identifying marker that is on a database and identifies the beast.
I think I'm being kind. I think some sort of identifying marker should be on the bikes. I'm not calling for a tag to be stapled to their heads but, if that's the way they want to go........

Oh, I would like to point out, I also cycle on occasions. I have three bikes. A Kia, a Peugeot and a Giant. I have been toying with getting another. I enjoy getting out on my bikes and never have a problem. I never ride more than two abreast, follow the road rules and always give way to anything bigger than me. I do not have a problem with putting a registration plate on my bikes should it be required.

I've never had a problem either and always found everyone here in my part of the world really courteous, but I know a few people that have been hit and they didn't come off too well.....

**frantic** · 28th April 2014, 06:04 PM

There is a big difference between a horse rider a motorbike and a cyclist, only one goes through high traffic areas causing jams and blocking traffic.
As I've said before cyclist rego for certain areas, inner city and over 60 kph roads.
The other thing that annoys is the head up the bum attitude claim that they are saving the environment! If they use cyclists and don't delay traffic it's true, but in reality they slow dozens of cars if not hundreds and cause far more fuel to be burnt than they would use driving a 8l f250 to work

**sam_d** · 28th April 2014, 06:29 PM

Yeah! Damn cyclists holding up the free flow of rego paying motorists....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71paO1HcJQI

**Slunnie** · 28th April 2014, 06:39 PM

Geez you anti cyclist drivers are wound up like like a spring! You fatties should relax and go for a ride - of course not on the road though!

**Ausfree** · 28th April 2014, 06:51 PM

Just wondering........if you can legally ride a bicycle on a road, can you also ride a tricycle, scooter or billy cart on the road, they are also human propelled.

Just asking!!!

sheerluck · 28th April 2014, 08:14 PM

I must admit, I'm a bit of a hypocrite when it comes to cyclist versus motorist, depending whether I'm in the driving seat or the saddle. However, I follow the road rules more closely as a cyclist than I do as a motorist. Mainly because the potential to get wiped out is greater on two wheels.

I've had a few close calls as a cyclist, the best of which was a silly cow in a car who stopped dead in front of me, she thought the light for our filter lane had turned to red, when it was the other direction that had changed. I ended up with my face pressed against her rear screen.

**MR LR** · 28th April 2014, 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by Slunnie

Geez you anti cyclist drivers are wound up like like a spring! You fatties should relax and go for a ride - of course not on the road though!

I went for a ride this evening, 15k round trip, I found out I haven't lost any fitness since I last did it so the bike can be stowed away for another 3 months while I burn petrol

**Sitec** · 28th April 2014, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by Slunnie

When you ride side by side on the other hand it forces the driver behind to pass properly, as in actually use the indicators, make a proper and safe lane change and subsequently no railroad the rider into an accident like they do when they try to fit a bike and a car into a single lane.

I'd also hope a semi-driver is responsible enough not to ever drive around a blind bend at 80kmh - that would be incredibly negligent.

So, if a car/truck is forced to slow and change lanes because a car space is taken, then rego should be paid for that car space that's also taken....

Most hilly, narrow and windy roads have blind corners every few kms... which have Armco, double white lines and an indication of the danger ahead... A corner is approached in readiness for problems, but if everyone was to drive dangerous roads as tho there will be an issue around the next bend then we'd all be doing 10kph.... If the cyclist is in single file, then there is safely room to pass (given, many do not leave enough space, but there is still room). If there is a block of 4 cyclists, there is not room.. I now hear you say 'what about slow moving vehicles?' They are usually large, well lit and can be seen over the top of fences etc... something a block of cyclists can't.. (Worst case scenario if there is a big thump both parties are usually ok as both items are solid)..

I'm not trying to be negative about this, I've just seen lots of 'close calls' with cars getting around blocks of cyclists, but I've seen few issues with people overtaking a line of cyclists. Yes, we all need to be more forgiving and cyclist aware.... BUT in the same breath, our cycling friends need to think more about their safety on fast narrow busy roads and remember that they are not in a safe cocoon when riding in a block of 4. They are in fact just the opposite..

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