Thread: How good is modern armament

Sniper Locating System - Reliably detects snipers before a shot is fired

03 November 2006 11:10


Silent, deadly and all but invisible, snipers can strike with snake-like speed and effectiveness. They pose an almost daily threat to politicians and other prominent persons, and represent a constant danger to soldiers deployed in conflict zones. Increasingly, they threaten ordinary civilians too: a single shot fired into a crowd can cause mass panic, with potentially devastating consequences, making any major public-event a target for attack.
Rheinmetall Defence's Sniper Locating System, or SLS, significantly reduces such risks by enabling reliable detection of snipers even before a single shot is fired. As soon as an assassin or enemy combatant opens his scope to aim his rifle, the SLS can detect him.
Instantly, an optical and acoustic signal warns the SLS operator of an acute threat. In the process, the optical signal marks the exact location of the sniper, who is often so well concealed and so far away as to be virtually undetectable by conventional optics. The SLS system's range, however, is at least as great as the maximum range of a sniper rifle.
The SLS is available in both a manually-operated and automatic version. In appearance and mode of use, the manually operated system is comparable to binoculars - light, flexible and deployable anytime, anywhere.
The automatic version of the SLS can be installed in high-threat locations - for example the access gate of a forward operating-base - to serve as an autonomous, stationary system. In such situations, it can also be networked into a central surveillance-system to enable permanent monitoring of the surrounding area. In the event of an acute threat, an automatic alarm is triggered.
A mobile SLS is already available for protecting military and civilian convoys, and a vehicle-mounted version will be available in the near future.
The Rheinmetall Sniper Locating System has already been used for protecting major events, including the Pope's visit to Cologne to mark World Youth Day 2005, and the 2006 Football World Cup. Moreover, the SLS has been widely used by the military during its IFOR, KFOR and ISAF missions as well as in Afghanistan.

Advantages of the system include:
* Rapid availability and operational readiness
* Low false alarm rate
* High-accuracy even at great ranges
* Night-vision capability
* Automatic range-finding
* Ergonomic design
* Easy to operate
* Low weight
* Integrated binocular-function
* Integrated camera
* Remotely operable
* Possible ireless communication
* Digital link to a PC

I remember reading many years ago that the Brits had a Land Rover mounted sniper detecting radar unit. I think then it needed one shot to locate the source. From memory they used it in Northern Ireland.

I read some years ago....round about the Bosnian conflict, that the Yanks had a 50 Cal (of course ) mounted on a Humvee. These were deployed at Key Points and an array of anntenas were deployed around. In auto mode, the system could automatically return fire.

Could also be used in manual mode and with less accuracy and greater response time, without the extended array.

Don't know how good the system was but it sounded impressive.....nothing like a big burst of 50 Cal rounds to ruin a bad guys day.

All I can see is random mortars being fired and "god is great" being repeated then the video freezes and nothing else.

Gotta love the money and resources spent on gucci solutions to an threat that can be hidden easily or mimmiced to confuse the technology.
The SLS system mentioned above would have cost millions to develop, a base would need equivalent number to the guns sited in interlocking arcs.
To cover 1 m^2 you would need4-5 in a continuous, overlapping arc.

To confuse, you scatter disused/ broken lenses all around the area or allocate decoys to uncover/ cover then relocate to simulate multiple targets.

The ACTUAL sniper could use a MOTS anti-reflection filter (think long beehive-like tube similair to airflow correction mesh before AFM/ MAF in car.

Similairly, the sniper will choose an firing lane with limited chance of detection or uncover the sights immediatly before firing. Flip, shoot, flip, run like buggery!

Duh, Iron sights are good to 1200, with practice.
Won't go on. If the NVA can figure out to put drums of urine in trees to fool the US 'People detectors' 40yrs ago, then a modern fighter with Global support, can counter most tech in days or weeks of study.
Hearts and minds, stable, legal society is the ONLY way to win these conflicts.
Divert R& D from these 'Toys' above to better IED locate/ destroy systems and you're home and hosed.

Originally Posted by Celtoid

I read some years ago....round about the Bosnian conflict, that the Yanks had a 50 Cal (of course ) mounted on a Humvee. These were deployed at Key Points and an array of anntenas were deployed around. In auto mode, the system could automatically return fire.

Could also be used in manual mode and with less accuracy and greater response time, without the extended array.

Don't know how good the system was but it sounded impressive.....nothing like a big burst of 50 Cal rounds to ruin a bad guys day.

Mounted on an APC, with 3 distinctive antennas. Could tract only 5 rounds at the same time. auto 50 cal with a cam, operator sat in side waiting the cam to confirm target which had to be confirmed before firing. Operator could also switch cam to other modes and automatically track a target until FOF was clear.

Sounds great, didn’t really work. a big old white APC turns up with 3 whopping big whips. Snipers arnt that dum, they go home for lunch.
OR the 50cal chews though a belt, takes out the sniper and the family sitting having lunch behind 3 more block walls. Or 3 rooms behind the sniper.

whilst speaking of ammo and explosive handling errors may be worth viewing this.

[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQa0HKZoACg"]YouTube- IED Goes Terribly Wrong!! (Taliban get blown up again lol)[/nomedia]

Apparently the Video taken by "over the horizon" (<= sp?) helicopter at night and from a considerable distance whilst chopper in stealth mode. obviously they arent aware of the fact they are being watched but when someone does something that is a bit wrong, its a little bit of "live by the sword...."

watch the guy looking for a weapon but obviously in shock.
cheers

digger

Originally Posted by digger

whilst speaking of ammo and explosive handling errors may be worth viewing this.

YouTube- IED Goes Terribly Wrong!! (Taliban get blown up again lol)

Apparently the Video taken by "over the horizon" (<= sp?) helicopter at night and from a considerable distance whilst chopper in stealth mode. obviously they arent aware of the fact they are being watched but when someone does something that is a bit wrong, its a little bit of "live by the sword...."

watch the guy looking for a weapon but obviously in shock.
cheers

digger

I had a look at a few others on that link. The A10 Warthog sorting out a group of motor cyclists with its 30mm rotary cannon was stunning. Likewise the Barrett .50 cal. hitting the guy on a mountain crag and blowing him off the rocks in pieces.

Loved the one of the septic firing the Browning .50 and the barrel falling off. I can just imagine the senior non-com speaking to him afterwards. " You >?:"+(*&^ horrible little soldier!!! What are you? Speak up, louder, so everyone can hear."