Golf R32

Stay with something european, if budget is tight, look also at Skoda and or Passat, they are very well made and finish is as good as BMW.
That is what is said by most motoring writers across the board noy just me making up words and taking up space.

Or if you venture to Japan,
There is the Toyota Klueger and Mazda CX7.

VW is bringing out a dual cab with all the trimmings and that will just under $50k, may not be ideal but an option.

Oh, and Golf also has a wagon now and so does the Passat.

Good luck, if in Adelaide, I can arrange a drive of our Golf, or our architects R32.

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Originally Posted by VladTepes

unless, of course, you'd rather have a car that doesn't make you dry heave every time you have to look at it !

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Ha Ha they are ugly

Friend had a golf GTI he is a VW fan but had some gearbox software issues (apparently common to vw abd Audi DSG gearboexes? lead to delays in acclerqation in traffic etc which he found unnerving easily fixed apparently)) but also the service here in NZ is crap so he was dissapointed in that
He looked at new golf gti etc and decieded to buy Lancer ralliart for $15000 cheaper he suprised me as he is such a VW fan, he said more powerful motoer better handling/braking with FWd on wet roads (does not chew front tyres!!) much less road noise and lots beter spec but more junkier plastics/trim etc, Service is much better which was a factor for him
I loved the TDI golfs myself whah a weapon

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Originally Posted by big guy

Stay with something european, if budget is tight, look also at Skoda and or Passat, they are very well made and finish is as good as BMW.
That is what is said by most motoring writers across the board noy just me making up words and taking up space.

Or if you venture to Japan,
There is the Toyota Klueger and Mazda CX7.

VW is bringing out a dual cab with all the trimmings and that will just under $50k, may not be ideal but an option.

Oh, and Golf also has a wagon now and so does the Passat.

Good luck, if in Adelaide, I can arrange a drive of our Golf, or our architects R32.

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Thanks for the kind offer Big Guy I think we will be choosing the R32, I don't think much else comes close for value..

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Originally Posted by big guy

The E46 as good as it is, is getting on a bit though now.
Its definately faster but race car? Not sure where that came from???

The M3's also have a cult following, no doubt there.
I had a M5 and by God was that wuick and the dog leg box is another story but race car.
I don't think so.
Bit like a Rangy is not really a off road racer.

The Golf with all the trimmings is not cheap, that's a given but it does work well as a daily commuter.

Also the FSI in the Golf which is the Petrol version is pretty good on fuel also, they average 8L/100 real terms where as our diesel does 7L/100 in real world figures with the wifes lead foot and school runs etc.

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I guess I think an M3 at under 5 secs to 100, 8:22 around the ring and 252Kw as race car like for what can be a fine daily commuter. But yes they are getting on a bit and service, reliability etc could be an issue but I thought we drove LRs so we don't factor this in when buying cars?? R32 average fuel usage is likely to be more like 12/100 if you like driving, still not bad overall.

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Originally Posted by LR09WA

Thanks for the kind offer Big Guy I think we will be choosing the R32, I don't think much else comes close for value..

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55K for a bloody hatchback..... you buy a VW because it's cheap and economical not because it's fast and has a nice gearbox. I think the GTI is better value for money if you want a hatchback.

Have you looked at the Evos? Rubbish interior but they are supposed to go OK.

My sister in law changed from a Mazda CX7 to a Tdi Golf,he is finding the economy hard to get use to as she went from filling once a week $100 to once a fortnight $60. Pat

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Originally Posted by series3

No worries. A Mitsubishi Ralliart Lancer may be another avenue to explore depending on what you think of the interior finish, and auto availalbility. While you're at it I suppose, don't count out the WRX. They have come a long way in terms of interiors and comfort; They aren't as one-dimensional as they once were. But then again, is there such things as an automatic WRX?

There are plenty of Holdens/HSV to look at as well, but the domestics aint so cheap these days.

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The service costs on the mitsu will sent you broke.One of my B-I-Laws sells all the go fast bits for them,all synthetic oils and 5K changes.If you all want a laugh look up the service requirements for the Nissan GTR:eek:. Pat

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Originally Posted by inside

I guess I think an M3 at under 5 secs to 100, 8:22 around the ring and 252Kw as race car like for what can be a fine daily commuter. But yes they are getting on a bit and service, reliability etc could be an issue but I thought we drove LRs so we don't factor this in when buying cars?? R32 average fuel usage is likely to be more like 12/100 if you like driving, still not bad overall.



55K for a bloody hatchback..... you buy a VW because it's cheap and economical not because it's fast and has a nice gearbox. I think the GTI is better value for money if you want a hatchback.

Have you looked at the Evos? Rubbish interior but they are supposed to go OK.

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The M3 as aid is great, no doubt and will always be one of my favourites.

The R32 is however half its price, almost same performance and can retain its resale better as its now no longer made and has always been in demand.
I know, I have actually had one.

So the R32 is actually very cheap.

The M3 around Nurburgring at that tempo is with a driver that really knows what he is doing, in a as new car not 10 years old. Still , its one of my favourites.

I think the GTI is also better value but not quite as special.
I also said the R32 is heavy on front tyres and rear brakes not the GTI.

For $55k, the R32 is amazing value, amzingly quick and still very capable to carry family around town.

Well chosen, the only downside is the lack of demerit points you will have after 2 months as the speed alert is very quiet and the noise the car makes so good, you will loose your license in no time.

I sometimes wish I never sold it, the twin pipes in the back by Remus alone was worth it every morning. Good buy mate, great decision and in 2 years if you sell it, after your accounmtant has thr written down value via depreciation below what you will sell it for, you will be paying tax on the profit.
I did, its a bit of a joke really.:p

I think this is a good sum up.... [nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJkFwzmtFf4"]YouTube- CarAdvice.com.au - Sports Sedan Shootout - Evo vs STI vs R32 vs 135i[/nomedia]

Go forth and sign on the dotted line and never look back.