Thread: Recycling vehicles

Originally Posted by Slunnie

I thought that I'd read a while ago that the hybrid are actually not all that flash in the cradle to grave analysis, and of all vehicles it was actually the Jeep Wrangler which came out the most efficient in the same analysis. I don't know what the projected life span was.

The problem with this sort of analysis is that you have to make so many assumptions (not just projected lifespan) that you can get virtually any answer you want, just by tailoring the assumptions.

And on the subject of hybrids, it is worth noting that for non-urban driving, most of the current small diesels give far better fuel economy, and even give better CO2 emissions.

John

Originally Posted by rovercare

Hybrid energy vehicles are very succesful in there purpose






feel better about themselves "thinking" they are doing good for the environment

Exactly the problem. IF anyone truly wanted to save the planet, they wouldn't even OWN a car/bus/truck etc etc.

Most 'environmentalists' will bang on all day about it but still drive through rush hour bumper to bumper traffic, idling their vehicle etc to get to work the next morning. Hypocracy is all around...

I know an aging 4BD1 isn't a very clean engine, but at least it isn't going to become toxic landfill for a long time to come

JC

Being green is not about selling your trusty LR and buying a Prius. The fact is new cars are made every year and making them cleaner, more efficient with less emissions is a good thing (how could it not be?) Joe Bloggs who buys a new car every nth year may consider a prius or maybe not. Maybe he/she talks about a Prius to their left of centre friend who then buys one. What is important here is a change in the long term.

I agree that that money could be much better spent educating people about the impact of buying any new car (over keeping your old one) on the environment as a whole however I doubt car manufacturers would invest in this!

I feel that making a choice to do something proactive should not be the cornerstone of criticism. Most people have mouths to feed and bills to pay and thus any effort to be conscientious (about being green or whatever) will usually be compromised in some way.

Cheers

Michael

Originally Posted by rockstar

Being green is not about selling your trusty LR and buying a Prius. The fact is new cars are made every year and making them cleaner, more efficient with less emissions is a good thing (how could it not be?) Joe Bloggs who buys a new car every nth year may consider a prius or maybe not. Maybe he/she talks about a Prius to their left of centre friend who then buys one. What is important here is a change in the long term.

I agree that that money could be much better spent educating people about the impact of buying any new car (over keeping your old one) on the environment as a whole however I doubt car manufacturers would invest in this!

I feel that making a choice to do something proactive should not be the cornerstone of criticism. Most people have mouths to feed and bills to pay and thus any effort to be conscientious (about being green or whatever) will usually be compromised in some way.

Cheers

Michael

True, Humans are quite destructive. We can all just try a little to avoid unnecessary waste and damage to our immediate environment, but as you say, life must go on. And must be enjoyable

JC

Old cars are great. The other day I started up and took for a short run my 42 year old Volvo 1800S. It started easily after sitting for about 5 months and had not been driven for close to a year. Sure the steering is heavy, it dont handle or go as hard as its looks suggest but it is a solid, well engineered old car that will out last me. I will pass this car on to my son after a life time of enjoying it.
I would love an 88" 2a to play with too but no more garage space. Have a look at my gallery for pics of the 1800.
Regards
Robbo.

Originally Posted by robbotd5

Old cars are great. The other day I started up and took for a short run my 42 year old Volvo 1800S. It started easily after sitting for about 5 months and had not been driven for close to a year. Sure the steering is heavy, it dont handle or go as hard as its looks suggest but it is a solid, well engineered old car that will out last me. I will pass this car on to my son after a life time of enjoying it.
I would love an 88" 2a to play with too but no more garage space. Have a look at my gallery for pics of the 1800.
Regards
Robbo.

Robbo, P1800's are a gem!!! An ES would be a desirable item too!. I bought a 144 Manual twin carb for $200 from a wrecker. In registerable condition bar a new screen and tail lamp cluster. I drove it from Tas to WA, lived over there for 18months and brought it back with me. When I changed Lower control arm bushes, the bolts were still immaculately Cad plated!! What a well built and reliable, economical(10l/100km) vehicle. I sold it later to my neighbour (who restores them), for $200.

P1800 would be one of my favourite Volvos. Fitted with 240GT alloys they look HOT

PICS????

JC

funny the owner of the place I am renting is an old engine nut - he has a 1910 blackstone diesel stationary engine I asked what does it use under full load (about a litre an hour) it weighs about a 1 1/2 tonnes but it is able to run a 10kva + alternator with ease, try and find a new lighting plant that comes close to that sort of economy

[QUOTE=blitz;1347430]funny the owner of the place I am renting is an old engine nut - he has a 1910 blackstone diesel stationary engine I asked what does it use under full load (about a litre an hour) it weighs about a 1 1/2 tonnes but it is able to run a 10kva + alternator with ease, try and find a new lighting plant that comes close to that sort of economy[/QUOTE]

..And does it with CLASS.

JC