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Thread: TATA to build LR and Jaguar in China?????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    There should be at least an option where a buyers can purchase reliable vehicles, without all the gadgets, that can still be fixed by people in the bush without having to use computer aided diagnostics.
    Fair call. I tend to agree which is why I'd buy an Iveco Massif if they sold them here.
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    Doesnt matter where the factory is really. The same stuff will go into making them. Provided the correct quality control procedures are adhered to and the cheaper manufacturing cost is passed on to the consumer I cant see it being a problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uninformed View Post
    <snip> ... and i doubt LR "invented" C4WD.....I dont think its fair to assume that LR's engineers are they only ones capable of "inventing" new ideas.....<snip>
    I'm not sure about vehicles like the Dutch Stryker in the early part of the 20th Century, however the first production Land Rover in 1948-1951 had C4WD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by disco2hse View Post
    No one suggested they did except you
    go back and read Pat's statement applied with a very broad brush....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    I'm not sure about vehicles like the Dutch Stryker in the early part of the 20th Century, however the first production Land Rover in 1948-1951 had C4WD.
    I though they changed it out earlier than the 3 year mark??? no matter, I doubt they where the first to use it, regardless, they have had good ideas but for the most part have been restricted by budgets and some small minds.....BL made a right mess of it all.

    look at simple things in a non-computer defeder....head light switches melting, overly complicated under built indercator flasher cans....undersize wiring/bad earths....these are things that can stop a vehicle and have.... among other simple things that they have changed, or didnt get right from the begining

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    Quote Originally Posted by one_iota View Post
    As Mark Twain wrote: "reports of my death are greatly exaggerated"

    My Puma engined Defender is fine....but thank you for everyone's sympathy anyway.

    The engine will still be made in Dagenham.

    He also said "Honesty is the best policy - when there is money in it".
    Unfortunately my defender is not fine and there is considerable money invested in it No exaggeration here! Wish there was.
    I really like the engine and think it is a good choice, it's the rest of the car that is a worry for me. Off to the LR doctor tomorrow for more of the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    I'm not sure about vehicles like the Dutch Stryker in the early part of the 20th Century, however the first production Land Rover in 1948-1951 had C4WD.
    An Australian company built a (constant?) 4x4, 4WS truck in ~1913.

    Wasn't one of the first ever cars some french electric thing with a motor on each wheel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAT303 View Post
    Can I go off topic here and ask how many of you have been stuck with broken computers and broken plastic diffs?. Pat

    2 x plastic diffs here, D2....

    Thankgod for ARB, and having twins

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    When one of you find a manufacturer who builds a vehicle that is 100% reliable over 5 years,who can then build 1000's of them with the same 100% reliability let me know because I'll be the first to buy one.Seeing that I live in reality and know that it is impossible to do I'll live with my LR's and if you think we'll go back to mechanical injection engines without computers or pollution gear or airbags or ABS you are kidding yourself.I didn't say LR invented constant 4wd but they did and still are the market leaders in bringing new technologies into 4wd's.Like I said earlier,it's 2010,get used to it. Pat

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    Quote Originally Posted by uninformed View Post
    <snip>
    look at simple things in a non-computer defeder....head light switches melting, overly complicated under built indercator flasher cans....undersize wiring/bad earths.
    ...<snip>
    Switches were the product of the Prince of Darkness - Joseph Lucas, The miniscule wires were a BL-Jaguar Rover transition thing. However a melted switch in a non-computer car can be bypassed by any competent owner, mechanic or auto sparky without the need for computer diagnostics or the need to re-programme the limp-home mode.

    BTW: the transition from C4WD happened about 4000 units into 1951 production. There is however a misconception that the 1950 models with the yellow button had selectable 2/4WD, this is untrue, the freewheel unit was still present but merely operated by a slightly different mechanism.

    You won't find me on: faceplant; Scipe; Infragam; LumpedIn; ShapCnat or Twitting. I'm just not that interesting.

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