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  • Series 3 Stage One

    7 6.54%

  • County (Isuzu)

    55 51.40%

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    45 42.06%
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Thread: Objectively - which is best? Stage 1 vs County vs Defender

  1. 3rd December 2010, 03:32 PM #1
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    Objectively - which is best? Stage 1 vs County vs Defender

    Now I don’t want this to be an emotional argument, but please give a reasoned answer.

    Series 3: Stage One
    County – Isuzu Diesel
    Defender 200 / 300Tdi

    We’ll forget about the really expensive newer ones.

    Did I forget any?
    I'm only thinking of diesels, for ease of comparison.

    "Best" can be whatever you think ity means.
    Whether or not used as a daily driver, but it must be good offroad (yes I know they all are).

    If you were in the market for an old good nick car which would you choose and WHY?
    It's not broken. It's "Carbon Neutral".


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  2. 3rd December 2010, 03:33 PM #2
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    you need to define "best" for what use...
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    As a toy with which to play on weekends.......
    Isuzu County gives the benefits of coils and the power of the Isuzu engine
    TDI more economical but does not have the "aura" of the Isuzu and not much difference elsewhere
    Stage 3 has leaf springs and is older

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  4. 3rd December 2010, 03:44 PM #4
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    Did I forget any?


    The County also came with the 3.5 V8
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    OK see original post for clarification.
    It's not broken. It's "Carbon Neutral".


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    1994 Range Rover Vogue LSE "The Luxo-Barge"
    1994 Defender 130 HCPU "Rolly"
    1996 Discovery 1

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    Quote Originally Posted by one_iota View Post

    The County also came with the 3.5 V8
    +1 ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by VladTepes View Post
    OK see original post for clarification:

    I'm only thinking of diesels, for ease of comparison
    You'll need to scrub the Series 3 Stage 1 because it had the V8 only.
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    I voted Isuzu County. Simple, strong (In 4 spd guise, up to 1986) frugal and VERY reliable. What more could anyone honestly need/ want from a work horse and tourer?
    The ONLY issue if you are looking to buy one now is they are getting very long in the tooth, and some are quite rusty. I am making one, after finding a rust free 1985 shell.

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    The Range Rover L322 4.4.TTDV8 ....probably won't bother with the remap..😈
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    Quote Originally Posted by one_iota View Post
    You'll need to scrub the Series 3 Stage 1 because it had the V8 only.
    Isuzu were fitted to these too.

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    The Isuzu 110. Solid and as dependable as a rock, coming soon with auto box😊
    The Range Rover L322 4.4.TTDV8 ....probably won't bother with the remap..😈
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    Defenders are 90% County, 10% Discovery.
    Stage 1s are 90% Series 3, 10% County.
    Counties are 100% Awesome.

    For a tourer, a tdi Defender, as the body/chassis/interior will be a few years newer and not rattled to death and be a little less noisy around town as well. You can have A/C and vents from stock too. Also, the option of the 130 is a bonus to the tourer.
    For weekend warriors, the County with either factory engine, as it has the reputedly the strongest drivetrain, PAS, coils, thicker body panels, and are often cheaper than Defenders to purchase.
    Kept stock, a Stage 1 would be hardest to live with (as a daily driver) I guess, leaf springs, no power assisted steering, NVH levels highest. But bushability factor would be very high.
    For towing, the Isuzu County if tweaked/turboed.
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