Thread: Land Rover crash strength

I dont think the center of gravity is low on a discovery they are known for body roll and is effected as soon as people lift them....(of couse I'm not saying that the disco was lifted although has a fair bit of ground clearance and what appears to be big tyres and a possible camel cut)

I also think that the pajero took much more of a battering because he effectively dropped into a hole where as the disco was on the flat.

Still both good videos and both get me worried about fitting lockers...hahahah

Another difference is ground softness. Eg rolling over on concrete or in sand would have a differing effect of the damage done to a vehicle. good Videos though and well worth a watch.

Originally Posted by dullbird

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Still both good videos and both get me worried about fitting lockers...hahahah

I suspect the Pajero has a rear locker, I don't think it would have kept driving up and over if it had an open rear diff.

Originally Posted by BigJon

I suspect the Pajero has a rear locker, I don't think it would have kept driving up and over if it had an open rear diff.

I know hence why I have concerns of fitting my own...its the only thing that worries me about lockers the fact that they will keep on driving in a dangerous situation (that you might not be aware of) when any other car probably would of lost traction

my first thought regarding the 1st driver of the pajero (we all know what that means in spanish hey?) why would you attempt thrashing it over a potential cross axle situation with such a major camber? asking for it.
2nd bit of input both motors were written off both thankfully surviveable spaces left within the cockpit who would have thought that the disco would compete in that scenario with a more modern Pajero

I know a long time dealer principal of Pajero and Disco who says the Disco's COG is only about 3-4 inches above its rails - owing to the heavy rails and light body panels and that it is pretty much the lowest COG 4wd around. The fact that they roll (a bit when considering a non ace D2) is testament to soft springs and thin anti roll bars not necessarily COG. LR roll over angles for off road use are very impressive which gives an indication of COG.

Cheers

Originally Posted by Gillie

Another difference is ground softness. Eg rolling over on concrete or in sand would have a differing effect of the damage done to a vehicle. good Videos though and well worth a watch.

I agree mate. At first I thought the roller of the Disco might be in sand which would not be as impressive as the Pajero's ground, however when he rolled it was on hard ground and he had left the sand.

Cheers

Originally Posted by ozscott

I know a long time dealer principal of Pajero and Disco who says the Disco's COG is only about 3-4 inches above its rails - owing to the heavy rails and light body panels and that it is pretty much the lowest COG 4wd around. The fact that they roll (a bit when considering a non ace D2) is testament to soft springs and thin anti roll bars not necessarily COG.

Cheers

Exactly,also in a V8D1,the g/box & TC,weigh more than the engine,which lowers the centre of gravity considerably.

If you look at a GU,as an example,you will notice the engine is located much higher than say a D1 or D2.Good for wading,but not good for COG
Also the Prado was noted as being unstable in the US,probably due to a narrow track,& high centre of gravity.D1 & D2 were not mentioned.