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    Quote Originally Posted by MickS View Post
    A computer hacker. That's what he is.
    No. He doesn't do that. He is only the front man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by disco2hse View Post
    No. He doesn't do that. He is only the front man.
    He's a convicted hacker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickS View Post
    He's a convicted hacker.
    Oh, I see your logic.

    He did in that case, therefore he did in this case. But, your logic is flawed,


    [In 1987, after turning 16, Assange began _[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_%28computer_security%29"]_hacking under the name "Mendax" He and two other hackers joined to form a group which they named the International Subversives. In 1992, he pleaded guilty to 24 charges of hacking and was released on bond for good conduct after being fined AU$2100.]
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    Quote Originally Posted by MickS View Post

    My heroes stand in front of a 40 foot wall of flame with a hose with barely enough pressure to splash your boots;
    Only Stoopid ones


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushie View Post


    Only Stoopid ones


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    Lol smart arse!!


    Yep, that would be me though!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by disco2hse View Post
    Oh, I see your logic.

    He did in that case, therefore he did in this case. But, your logic is flawed,


    [In 1987, after turning 16, Assange began _[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_%28computer_security%29"]_hacking under the name "Mendax" He and two other hackers joined to form a group which they named the International Subversives. In 1992, he pleaded guilty to 24 charges of hacking and was released on bond for good conduct after being fined AU$2100.]
    Oh I'm sorry..maybe I didn't type slow enough for the kiwis . He is a convicted hackerrrrrrrrrrrrr.

    There was no suggestion in my post that he has done that in the case of wikileaks. Others have. That's others have.....

    Apology accepted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickS View Post
    He's a convicted hacker.
    Ned Kelly was a murderer. And your point is???

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    My 2c worth:

    Irrespective of the info revealed, Assange has not done this for 'transperancy' or any other noble reason but for personal agrandisment in the hacker/internet world (just like most hackers etc).

    The US might eventally get him, but as he was the 'publisher' of the info and not the 'thief', he can claim 1st amendment rights and thus any prosecution would fail.

    As to the rape allegations, maybe they're false, but 1) there's better countries than Sweden for the US to try this sort of trick in to guarantee extradition; and 2) after listening to the girl's lawyer, it appears to be a 'removal of consent' issue and therefore something that needs to be argued. If you're trying to nail someone with trumped up charges, why not try something more solid?

    Most of the info simply embarrases the pollies/diplomats and will probably lead to less transperancy rather than more.

    Certain newspapers will make a lot of money out of it (and probably a few lawyers too).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamo View Post
    My 2c worth:

    Irrespective of the info revealed, Assange has not done this for 'transperancy' or any other noble reason but for personal agrandisment in the hacker/internet world (just like most hackers etc).

    The US might eventally get him, but as he was the 'publisher' of the info and not the 'thief', he can claim 1st amendment rights and thus any prosecution would fail.
    Assange is only the figure head for a group of people who are Wikileaks. Do we prosecute Rupert Murdock for everything News Limited or Fox News say - No

    Julian Assange is an Australian Citizen - he has no US first amendment rights, that is only bestowed upon US Citizens or US companies.

    You won't find me on: faceplant; Scipe; Infragam; LumpedIn; ShapCnat or Twitting. I'm just not that interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickS View Post
    He's a convicted hacker.
    As far as I am aware, the only time he was convicted of computer hacking was 19 years ago in Australia. He pleaded guilty and was fined $2,100. The prosecutor’s words, according to Wikipedia, were "there is just no evidence that there was anything other than sort of intelligent inquisitiveness and the pleasure of being able to—what's the expression—surf through these various computers". Is there any evidence that he has hacked into computers during the last 19 years?

    Is Assange a hero? Certainly not by some peoples standards as well illustrated by Mick's examples of his heroes. Is he a hero to me? The simple answer is no, I lean in Mick's direction. However, he is a lot closer to being a hero to me than someone who has that title bestowed on them just because they win a medal at the Olympics!

    Assange, whether you agree with his actions or not, is trying to make the world a better place. He may or may not be right in what he is doing. We all have different views on that. But I believe Assange's intent is an admirable one.

    Cheers
    KarlB

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