I agree with Stoner

This kind of conflict is exctly what the MotoGP paddock needs to build interest back in it as it is slowly heading into a no mans wasteland as WSBK gains in strength each year.

No one can truely deny that Stoner is a real talent, whether or not by the end of his racing career he has as many championships under his belt as Rossi only time will tell. Right now I wouldn't right him off as a one hit wonder, nor do I think Rossi has won his last championship.

There needs to be another couple of high profile riders come along and beat Rossi before he retires or the MotoGP championship will be in massive trouble when he leaves.

This is what happens when one man becomes bigger then a sport / championship, its good while its works but when the star loses his appeal it is hard for the sport to recover. Especially when there is a series like WSBK that is gaining momentum and no longer lives in the shadow of the MotoGP.

The single biggest mistake the FIM noddies made was allowing Rossi to keep his own race number when he won all those world championships. What they did by this was say that the Number ONE plate was not important or something to aspire to and that is just plain stupid.

cheers,
Terry

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Originally Posted by TerryO

This kind of conflict is exctly what the MotoGP paddock needs to build interest back in it as it is slowly heading into a no mans wasteland as WSBK gains in strength each year.

No one can truely deny that Stoner is a real talent, whether or not by the end of his racing career he has as many championships under his belt as Rossi only time will tell. Right now I wouldn't right him off as a one hit wonder, nor do I think Rossi has won his last championship.

There needs to be another couple of high profile riders come along and beat Rossi before he retires or the MotoGP championship will be in massive trouble when he leaves.

This is what happens when one man becomes bigger then a sport / championship, its good while its works but when the star loses his appeal it is hard for the sport to recover. Especially when there is a series like WSBK that is gaining momentum and no longer lives in the shadow of the MotoGP.

The single biggest mistake the FIM noddies made was allowing Rossi to keep his own race number when he won all those world championships. What they did by this was say that the Number ONE plate was not important or something to aspire to and that is just plain stupid.

cheers,
Terry

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Terry,
I prefer WSBK anyway as they have at least some resemblance of bikes you can buy.
As for the number 1 plate that is pretty much rubbish, we all know who is the current champion and the number 1 is just a formality. Under most motor sport regs you do not have to display the number 1. Many many motor sport champions have kept their normal racing number as it has more benefit with no detriment. Rossi, Lowndes, Brrock to name a few.
The reason MotoGP is beocming a farce is not because of the race, but because only 3 or 4 teams are competitive same as F1. Not for a minute denying Rossi, Stoner etc are great riders they are.
The only time either of these are interesting is when the top drivers/riders crash and some competition occurs.

Slightly off topic but I think Moto 2 is much more interesting to watch with some real racing.

The marshalls did seem to favor Rossi though.

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Originally Posted by adam big lad disco

whoops sorry i thought that rule came in for the 2008 moto gp sorry.

I agree Stacey moaner is a very fast rider and a very talented rider but he is no wher near the class of Rossi!

He just needs to stop crying about everything and just race! If he had his way moto gp would be very boring race to watch it's people like rossi lorenzo speeds that make it fun to watch!

Thanks Adam

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Yeh mate,Stoner like Mark Webber wasn't born with a silver spoon in his mouth yet both are in the top stop in thier sports,both are journymen who's parents morgaged thier houses to get them there and both are there because of hard work and raw talent.Rossi is a good rider but I wonder how far he would have got without a one G Burgess engineering his bike for all his Moto GP career,the best engineer of the modern era.I find it sad that you and many others like you,people that have achieved nothing are so quick to bag out Australians that reach the pinacle of thier chosen sport without any help from Australia and without a famous name,I also find it funny that you find it insulting that Stoner gave Rossi a serve,that's called spark mate,not taking **** from anyone.Team owners like that in a rider and it would have put a grin on many of thier faces. Pat

It is interesting that only the riders take the credit for the results and no one give credit to Jeremy Burgess who to me is a legend and have abig share of the carrer of Mick and Valentino.
Do not get me wrong Valentino is a great rider but I would like to see how he perform without Jeremy Burgess in the garage.

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It is interesting that only the riders take the credit for the results and no one give credit to Jeremy Burgess who to me is a legend and have abig share of the carrer of Mick and Valentino.
Do not get me wrong Valentino is a great rider but I would like to see how he perform without Jeremy Burgess in the garage.

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Bang on, Burgess is a large part of the success of these riders and their teams. Having said that the riders still can ride and would have accomplished good results with any of the lead teams, maybe not as much as they have, but would have still had success.
Look I like Rossi and Stoner, but IMHO the Marshalls should be directed to assist the person caught up in any incident first, not the person who has caused th incident.
Even for a talent like Rossi the move he made was never going to stick in those conditions.

A few minutes ago on "RPM", Mick Doohan commented that Stoner's remark was a fair enough assessment of Rossi's prang. Rossi tried something and wasn't quite good enough to bring it off.

i agree with stoner but an easy fix is fit the bike with a starter

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Yeh mate,Stoner like Mark Webber wasn't born with a silver spoon in his mouth yet both are in the top stop in thier sports,both are journymen who's parents morgaged thier houses to get them there and both are there because of hard work and raw talent.Rossi is a good rider but I wonder how far he would have got without a one G Burgess engineering his bike for all his Moto GP career,the best engineer of the modern era.I find it sad that you and many others like you,people that have achieved nothing are so quick to bag out Australians that reach the pinacle of thier chosen sport without any help from Australia and without a famous name,I also find it funny that you find it insulting that Stoner gave Rossi a serve,that's called spark mate,not taking **** from anyone.Team owners like that in a rider and it would have put a grin on many of thier faces. Pat

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Hey mate where do you get that i bagged austrailians out i love webber as a racer if he doesn't win the race he doesn't crack the s@#ts and make up some **** weak excuse up like Stacey! i might have been born in england but i'm proud to be in australia!! :twisted::twisted:

And as for as people like me what is that suppose to mean you do not know anything about me as for as you know i could be part owner of a international buisness!!!!!!!:twisted::p:twisted:

Also burgess is fantastic and prob one of the best but do you reckon he would move from one team to another if he didn't think Rossi was good enough!

And when i watched the race the marshalls had to push rossi first because he was one trapped under his bike two in front of stoner! thaey can't push stoner through Rossi!!!!!

Thanks Adam

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Hey mate where do you get that i bagged austrailians out i love webber as a racer if he doesn't win the race he doesn't crack the s@#ts and make up some **** weak excuse up like Stacey! i might have been born in england but i'm proud to be in australia!! :twisted::twisted:

And as for as people like me what is that suppose to mean you do not know anything about me as for as you know i could be part owner of a international buisness!!!!!!!:twisted::p:twisted:

Also burgess is fantastic and prob one of the best but do you reckon he would move from one team to another if he didn't think Rossi was good enough!

And when i watched the race the marshalls had to push rossi first because he was one trapped under his bike two in front of stoner! thaey can't push stoner through Rossi!!!!!
Thanks Adam

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Well this is true, but they can always go around. There is no way that what Rossi was doing was going to work. Not possible, to wet completely wrong angle. There was no racing etiquette in that move. To me that looks like boderline take down. But hey.. wtf would I know.. lol. :angel: