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    To tow or not to tow

    In my plan to do The Big Lap, I had decided to use a tray-top lift-off camper, thus removing the need to tow.

    I'm curious about the pros and cons of a carrying vs towing. Factors are:
    • fuel usage
    • extra fees for ferries/tolls
    • rego
    • off-road capability
    • maintenance
    • ability to tow a another trailer (boat ext)


    and probably other issues I can't think of at the moment.

    Any advice or comments appreciated.

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    Yeh, if your camped somewhere all set up and you're out of sugar and the milk has gone off, you have to pack everything up again to go and purchase some goodies.
    What i'm getting at is you have to cart everything with you everywhere you go, to each his own.
    I like VNX-205's setup with his Tray-On Camper, great setup, small footprint, light weight and 30 second setup. I know you're capable of removing the camper but it looks to be a hassle and you have to worry about whether it will be there when you get back, at least with a trailer you can lock it up so it can't be towed.
    Then again if I had $25K + I would be looking at a Tray-On for my trailer, Regards Frank.

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    I've looked at the Tray-on and Travelander, and neither of them are really good for taking a boat, unless you tow it. I'd rather not tow a boat, as mates have all told me they get punished off-road and you're better off carting them upside down for rough terrian. Hence, I'm better off towing a van or camper with the boat upside down on top. Bit of a catch-22.

    I originally hated the idea of towing, and scoffed at the "off-road caravans", but after a bit of research they seem up to the task if you look after them.

    Basically, something like a Jayco Outback off-road caravan seems a lot more comortable than a kimberley camper, at half the money. Only issue with a Jayco (or similar) is durability, of which I'm yet to be convinced.

    Ultimately, I've almost come to the decision to tow a camper/caravan to use as a base station, with the tinny on top, and keep camping gear in the 130 tray for remote expeditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranga View Post
    I've looked at the Tray-on and Travelander, and neither of them are really good for taking a boat, unless you tow it. I'd rather not tow a boat, as mates have all told me they get punished off-road and you're better off carting them upside down for rough terrian. Hence, I'm better off towing a van or camper with the boat upside down on top. Bit of a catch-22.

    I originally hated the idea of towing, and scoffed at the "off-road caravans", but after a bit of research they seem up to the task if you look after them.

    Basically, something like a Jayco Outback off-road caravan seems a lot more comortable than a kimberley camper, at half the money. Only issue with a Jayco (or similar) is durability, of which I'm yet to be convinced.

    Ultimately, I've almost come to the decision to tow a camper/caravan to use as a base station, with the tinny on top, and keep camping gear in the 130 tray for remote expeditions.
    Hi Ranga
    I orignally set up a pop up campa simular to the jayco for our trip which would take the dingy on top, used it for over 12 months locally and sold it and purchased a caravan with a toilet and shower (wife will love me forever because of this feature,
    . I left the boat at home, I do miss it though but talking to people we meet on the road that are carring boats and asking about usage it suprises me how little they are used. Talking to a couple from tassie in the park we are at now, their boat hasnt been used in 10 months and he said we should have left it at home, that does seem to be a simular theme. Need to work out the extra fuel cost and nuisence value to see if its worth it for yourself, You can hire a tinnie for around $100 for half a day ( rough cost) or go on a full day off shore charter for around $250. We have been on the road since january and I have done it a bit of fishing with some success from the shores but there is so much more to see and do apart from fishing, I am a mad keen fisho. We have also fitted enough stuff under the bed to do remote travel when the time arises, self in flating matress, sleeping bags and a small twin burner gas cooker. Our cooking utensil from the van will double up for camping. Each to their own but I am glad I left the boat at home and towed the van, 12 months is a long time in a small camper as it is in a 16 foot van.
    You will enjoy your trip no matter how you do it
    cheers
    blaze

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    I have done a semi lap over 3 months with a Camp'o'matic camper towed by my RRC.

    If I had unlimited money I would I guess prefer a Nissan Patrol traytop or maybe a Colorado and a slide on camper however I decided to dip the toe and see if I liked it by spending only 10K on a second hand camper. I have never really regretted it and I will run my beloved Camp'o'matic until it dies.

    You can get slide ons with hydraulic legs and these are very quick to remove, and I have seen and spoken to people who set up a base camp and 4WD from there.

    The main downside to towing a camper are.
    You must KNOW whether a track does not have a tree/closed gate /landslide before you begin , as turning around can be impossible, and reversing long distances is not fun. ( I have not been caught but have met those who have except on my first day when I ended up in carpark of a restaurant on Georges river and had to unhitch and turn around. That taught me a good lesson)
    Just about EVERY darn country town has reverse angle parking and you have to scout around back streets for somewhere to park.

    With a "tent type" camper it is not fun if it rains for several days or you have to pack up in the rain.The Camp'o'matic is OK with this as it is waterproof but it still got damp inside after 3 days rain. I control this in caravan parks by running a fan heater inside. A hard floor is IMHO the only way, as I have caught in a downpour that had water running 150MM deep in the annex but everything inside was dry.

    On the same trip we met some soft floor campers who had lost everything in a flash runoff. We have some friends who were camping in rain in WA in a BIG softfloor and got so sick of closing the volumes of canvas , they sold it in Carnarvon and bought a popup Coromal to take home to Canberra.

    My camper dropped about 1-1.5L per 100Kms off my economy, but mine is basic and very light at about 650Kg loaded. I think the profile of a slide on would perhaps do the same.

    The downside of a slide on as far as I can see, is that I think they would have a lot less storage than a camper plus the rear seat area and load area of a wagon. I take my seats out and fill the area with plastic tubs. If you are going in cold and hot areas , you need lots of clothes plus snorkels etc for the tropics, plus a box for grog ( one slab plus wine for the dry areas), plus a box for spares, drawers for food, one week emergency supplies, water, chairs.

    One of MY deciding factors is that the bed MUST run North /South so that either can get up to the loo at night without crawling over the other, and just about all hard floor campers have this, and very few slide ons.
    Regards Philip A
    Last edited by PhilipA; 12th April 2011 at 08:02 AM. Reason: more info

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