Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 18

Thread: not a dig at toyota 200 @ 70 series, BUT

  1. #1
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    brighton, brisbane
    Posts
    33,853
    Total Downloaded
    0

    not a dig at toyota 200 @ 70 series, BUT

    I have read threads about the Toyota oil use problem, but took not much notice because 1. I thought just more L.R./ tojo/ rivalry

    2 I didn't understand anyway,
    but, read an article in a mag my wife bought home [ picked it up from work] Explaining the issue fairly well. Bear with me , and I believe I should acknowledge Vic Widman, from 4wd overlander, for this information.I quote, in part:

    Quote Originally Posted by Widman
    Toyota was denying there was a problem with their new hi-tech V8 diesel engines. However, a service bulletin from TMC Aust. makes for some very interesting reading. It points out there have been various fixes available for high oil usage over the past three years.It all dependa when your vehicle was manufactured as to what issue it might have.It seems they determined this by on your engine no. The earlier models needed a piston fix with a change in the shape of the piston recommended.Then they found that the vacuum pump exhaust port needed some work and finally for models built in 2010they recommended the removal of some burring on the turbo oil pipe flange.

    So, if you are having high oil usage and have not had anything attended to by your dealer under warranty you might ask about these fixes. But!This may still not fix the oil use problem. TMCA have now advised it's dealers that it is ok for owners to run their engines low on oil until the low oil light illuminates on the dashboard They are basically saying that is what the light is there for and these new high performance engine use oil.In fact they are saying these engines might be expected to use between 1 litre per 5000 km and 1 litre per 8000 km. So one assumes if that is what you are experiencing and you have had the other fixes already attended to, tough bikkies!

    According to TMCA, it depends on how you use your vehicle.,

    Is it subject to sustained high speed?[ no explanation of what high speed is ], or frequent high acceleration/ deceleration? [ no definition on frequent], TMCA says if you use your vehicle in this way, you need to ensure it has more frequent maintainence, TMCA also says additional service requirements are outside of its normal capped price servicing, which means you pay more for this extra servicing
    Bob
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    East-South-East Girt-By-Sea
    Posts
    17,662
    Total Downloaded
    1.20 MB
    Quote Originally Posted by bob10 View Post
    I have read threads about the Toyota oil use problem, but took not much notice because 1. I thought just more L.R./ tojo/ rivalry
    <snip>
    In fact they are saying these engines might be expected to use between 1 litre per 5000 km and 1 litre per 8000 km. So one assumes if that is what you are experiencing and you have had the other fixes already attended to, tough bikkies!
    <snip>
    We had a recent thread here on AuLRO about a LC 200 owner who was using 1 litre of oil per 1000Km and which the dealer suggested was normal.

    You won't find me on: faceplant; Scipe; Infragam; LumpedIn; ShapCnat or Twitting. I'm just not that interesting.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Safety Bay
    Posts
    8,041
    Total Downloaded
    0
    There's a good thread about a bloke who has this problem on explore oz at the moment,it's a good read for anyone who thinks you'll get good service in the outback which is supposedly one of Toyota's strong points. Pat

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Jan 1970
    Location
    Christchurch NZ
    Posts
    1,164
    Total Downloaded
    0
    I talked to a guy last week who's brother got his money back due to high oil consumption after 2 engine rebuilds. He couldn't tell me if it was a 70 or 200 series, just that it was a new V8 landcruiser.
    1995 Defender 110 300TDI :D
    1954 86" Series 1 Automatic :eek:
    Ex '66 109" flat deck, '82 109" 3 door, '89 110 CSW V8, '74 Range Rover, '66 88" soft top, '78 88" soft top, '95 Disco ES V8, '88 Surf, '90 Surf, '84 V8 Surf, '91 Vitara.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Ballan
    Posts
    327
    Total Downloaded
    0
    I wonder how the servicing would be on a toyota lease vehicle with the V8 diesel, I have a toyota lease hilux which clocks up high mileage and quite regularly on dirt roads, according to owners manual it should be serviced every 5000kms but toyota lease will only service it every 10000kms.
    Cheers Matt

  6. #6
    p38arover's Avatar
    p38arover is offline Major part of the heart and soul of AULRO.com
    Administrator
    I'm here to help you!
    Gold Subscriber
    Join Date
    Jan 1970
    Location
    Western Sydney
    Posts
    30,704
    Total Downloaded
    1.63 MB
    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    We had a recent thread here on AuLRO about a LC 200 owner who was using 1 litre of oil per 1000Km and which the dealer suggested was normal.
    Ruddy heck!
    Ron B.
    VK2OTC

    2003 L322 Range Rover Vogue 4.4 V8 Auto
    2007 Yamaha XJR1300
    Previous: 1983, 1986 RRC; 1995, 1996 P38A; 1995 Disco1; 1984 V8 County 110; Series IIA



    RIP Bucko - Riding on Forever

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    South West WA
    Posts
    214
    Total Downloaded
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    We had a recent thread here on AuLRO about a LC 200 owner who was using 1 litre of oil per 1000Km and which the dealer suggested was normal.
    Quote Originally Posted by imatt View Post
    I wonder how the servicing would be on a toyota lease vehicle with the V8 diesel, I have a toyota lease hilux which clocks up high mileage and quite regularly on dirt roads, according to owners manual it should be serviced every 5000kms but toyota lease will only service it every 10000kms.
    Cheers Matt

    If you open up the owners manual it states that 1 litre per 1000kms is acceptable. Admittedly between add and full on the dipstick is two litres of oil and an oil change uses about 10 or 11 litres of oil (V8 70 series).

    I know of two 200 sreies that didn't make it past 90 000kms due to dust/lease servicing although the hilux has one minor advantage it still has a cyclonic air filter the land cruisers no longer do. The snorkels on the cruisers also dump dust and dirt straight into the airbox there is no trap to keep the big stuff out of the airbox. I know a couple of mechanics in the Pilbra that do service every 5000kms and they state that isn't even enough, we dump our air filters after about four weeks which is only about 2500kms. We are also getting dust both sides of the filter we haven't really got into the fuel system that can't trap anymore than 30ml of water or the front and rear wheel axels that don't sit in the same track or the V8 diesel motor thats pretty limp wristed off boost especially should you be driving off road with a load.

    Fortunately there is no Toyota dealer anywhere near us so we have to use a local licensed mechanic with 40plus year experience in the region no we don't get capped price servicing but we do get service!

    Tojo really dropped the ball IMO the V8 70 series is almost a very good 4WD but for the amount of money you pay for what is a parts bin special that has been slapped together. We may be disappearing into soapbox territory here, they are not a horrendous steaming pile but for 70K plus they should be a lot better than they are. Most mining companies get rid of their vehicles after about 90 000kms (except us we're special!) because thats when expensive bits start falling off.

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Jan 1970
    Location
    Melbourne
    Posts
    2,972
    Total Downloaded
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    We had a recent thread here on AuLRO about a LC 200 owner who was using 1 litre of oil per 1000Km and which the dealer suggested was normal.
    My cousin was an apprentice mechanic at an Audi Dealership, and he was surprised to learn that oil usage of 1 litre per 1,000 was acceptable for them!!

    Maybe Kaymar should make a long range oil tank for the Toymotor.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Jan 1970
    Location
    Canberra
    Posts
    18,616
    Total Downloaded
    0
    My brother has a new Toyo V8 Diesel tray back - bought last November. He has done two long trips and has no problem with oil usuage.

    Has had a few other problems - like grinding sounds from the gearbox going uphills with a load but no oil usage issues.

    My other brother has a new Hilux of the same age and it rides worse than my 101 does. Also the 3.0 diesel is somewhat lacking in the power department - he came from a 3.2 diesel Triton.

    Garry
    REMLR 243

    2007 Range Rover Sport TDV6
    1977 FC 101
    1976 Jaguar XJ12C
    1973 Haflinger AP700
    1971 Jaguar V12 E-Type Series 3 Roadster
    1957 Series 1 88"
    1957 Series 1 88" Station Wagon

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Bibra Lake, WA
    Posts
    599
    Total Downloaded
    0
    At least the Toyotas are burning the oil and not leaking them...amiright?

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Bookmarks

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Search AULRO.com ONLY!
Search All the Web!