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    Fuses Vs Circuit Breakers

    Why don't cars use Circuit Breakers?

    I hang around planes a lot and I love the way you can just turn circuits on and off, or if you have a problem you can sort it out then reset the breaker..

    Fuses are awful, especially the glass ones in my 110. I have a 40A breaker for my spotties.. but it just resets itself when you turn off the power and gives me no indication of a problem.. And I have a 30A blade breaker for trouble shooting.. but its the same as the 40A I have for the spotties.

    Has anyone used Klixon or Eaton Aerospace breakers in Automotive use? Is there any reason I shouldn't? I can get them for $20 each which sounds like a lot but over the life of this thing could pay for themselves many times over.....
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    I would hazard a guess that fuses are used to reduce costs. Breakers are used in some circuits in cars. I have owned Fords that use a breaker for the headlights and SWMBO fairlane has one in the fuse box although I can't remember for what.

    I don't find fuses a problem, as modern cars have pretty good wiring and rarely blow fuses. This even applies to my 96 tdi. Disco.

    As for using circuit breakers to replace a fuse I can't see any reason why not.

    Dave.

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    Fuses do the job fine. why gold plate it?
    I have only ever lost a couple of fuses in almost 12 years ownership of my RRC and both were caused by exceptional circumstances, one being the Long range tank wearing through the number plate wires, a second getting the rear bumper plug under muddy water or watery mud? In each case once I had worked out the problem it was just a case of replacing the fuse.
    Oh and I just blew the maxi blade I have in the rear circuit because my new compressor draws 45 amps and I had a 30amp fuse in there. A good reminder to get some more 60amp maxis.
    It is not something that happens regularly and if it is then you should start looking in the loom as that is the way cars burn to the ground.
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    Why use circuit breakers rather than fuses?
    Because I blew this many fuses between the upper Hunter and Sydney, due to a difficult to replicate occasional fault that turned out to be the hazards switch shorting out somewhere whenever turning to a certain lock and hitting a bump, causing the fuse for the indicators to blow (rather than the hazards fuse). Not to mention that Lucas fuses are a different size to commonly available fuses, which don't quite fit in the fuse holders properly.


    Blade fuses would be a step up from cartridge fuses...

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    if i ever turn my Disco into a hybrid (put a series cab and a tray on it) then I will put breakers in and all in one location as they are much better as you say but I couldn't be bothered with the hassle of swapping as it is running like a dream and it is a lot of buggerising about.

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    Don't just assume that a circuit breaker of the same rating as a fuse will do the same job in protecting downstream loads.
    Some CBs will carry a high current (i.e. close to or at their rated trip current) for considerable time before tripping. Sensitive things like electronics can be damaged before it trips.
    There are various "curves" for breakers, which dictate their characteristics of time vs. current.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scanfor View Post
    Don't just assume that a circuit breaker of the same rating as a fuse will do the same job in protecting downstream loads.
    Some CBs will carry a high current (i.e. close to or at their rated trip current) for considerable time before tripping. Sensitive things like electronics can be damaged before it trips.
    There are various "curves" for breakers, which dictate their characteristics of time vs. current.
    In A/C there is B, C and D type breakers the instantaneous tripping times are 400%, 750% and 1250% respectively. DC would have similar sorts of breakers for the different intended uses of them

    Breakers are used because they are much more accurate in tripping than a fuse. Instantaneous tripping time if a CB is 0.4 of a second where a fuse can be up to 5 seconds, both a fuse and a C/B are designed to operate at 100% of rating.

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    The blade fuses in the Defender are an absolute bastard to fit and remove, I hate them.
    It's not broken. It's "Carbon Neutral".


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    I hear ya there Vlad! Just pray that you'll never have to change the fuse block itself. That is truly a **** of a job.

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