New Pajero not to be used off road

Way back when the first Freelander came out, I was told by someone whose job it was to assess Land Rover warranty claims, that he had knocked back a claim made by a LR dealer near Newcastle.

The dealer's son had been demonstrating the Freelander to a potential buyer on Stockton Beach. He bogged it and burned out the clutch trying to get out.

Apparently the reason for the rejection was that he had not followed the instructions in the owners manual where it said that tyre pressures should be lowered when driving on sand.

He also said that he knocked back a Defender claim by the navy involving rusted brake disks. His argument was that having the vehicle chained down on the deck of a navy ship to be used when they visited port did not constitute normal usage. :)

the waterwading level is a buety.like 200mm on some heavy duty 4X4.
lots of jeep engines with bent bits.

why would you fit compressors under the engines...I know...they arnt covered by the dealer warranty-only the installers vendor warranty.

had case with holden in the 80's..they had coolant issues but only had to honour vehicles that had all the coolant services carried out by the dealers that used genuine coolant,also the V6 VN engine issues we did under waranty long after the warranty expired if the car was dealer serviced.

consumer afairs dont always favour the car owner against the dealer---ive loaded plenty of stripped cars into boxes for transportation.

did plenty of pajero diff housings years ago,vehicles without towbars no problem.auto transmisions most brands---same deal.

12 yrs since i worked for a dealer---but nothings changed
The guy took it to consumer affairs under "the product not being fit for the designed purpose"
I was told it was intended purpose.

Bit of trivia do you know what pajero means in spanish,,,,,,,,,******, lol

I remember (getting old) back when toyota brought out Disc brakes on their top range 4x4's, owners were flooding into toyota dealers with warped front discs to be fixed under warranty and they were all knocked back because they had driven through water higher than the tyre to rim (about 5") and the discs got wet while hot and warped. Toyotas advertising at the time showed a Landcruiser tearing across a creek/river crossing with water flying everywhere, even over the bonnet and up the windscreen. John Laws was the Toyota spokesperson back then and his radio show was swamped by ****ed off Toyota owners, I think they finally caved and fixed most, Oh what a feelin', Regards Frank.

Not at all suprised,
Auto companies are making everything more lightweight & cutting on costs to try make it more economical to run & bring down the price of a finished vehicle,
The consumer ends up paying for it in the long run,
cheap v's quality wherever they can get away with it,
If it doesn't last for the term of the warranty, they will try & find a way out, unless it's something thats constantly failing & they do a recall

The sand on stocton beach is not like any other sand in the world--IM told

You can drive on it in an AU falcon with TDV6 in it I am informed.
Bonnet wom't close of course but that's what race tape is for.

A few years back Suzuki did an advert up past Licola (they used the camp as a staging area). The ad shows a Vitara roaring through the bush and shows it with the front wheels off the ground as it went over a small jump. The ad didn't show the result of that jump - the front LH wheel and strut assembly broke off the vehicle:eek:... They limped it back and it sat in the camp for a couple of days before they finished up and left - we were told not to take photos under any circumstances...

That showed clearly the difference between what they want you to believe the vehicle is capable of versus what it actually is...

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Originally Posted by 87County

there are stories (urban myths?) around that say that Toyota applies similar rules to Pravdos, Klugers & RAVs...

ie. ..show any subfloor knocks or scrapes and there'll be no warranty ..

maybe this is just another urban myth?

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I know I've mentioned this before .................

Around the time Toymota released the playdough, I was involved in making one of their ads, we supplied the water in the river ;). When we asked at the time why they didn't just park it in the river, - "we don't want to give the impression they can go into water" was the response. :twisted::twisted:

Martyn

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Originally Posted by Bushie

I know I've mentioned this before .................

Around the time Toymota released the playdough, I was involved in making one of their ads, we supplied the water in the river ;). When we asked at the time why they didn't just park it in the river, - "we don't want to give the impression they can go into water" was the response. :twisted::twisted:

Martyn

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What about all the car adds you see now playing in the surf on the beach.
Look we can drive in sea water, but when it rusts don't come crying.
German tourists copy cat this on Fraser I believe.

what about the Disco 2's compressor for the airsuspension, it's under the passenger side on the chassis rail, does it get water logged on crossings?????