V8 Supercars - whats happening to Ford?

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Originally Posted by landychris

I loved the race when it was the Armstrong 500 then later the Hardie Ferodo 500/1000. When entry was limited to standard unmodified production saloons built or assembled in Oz. Great to see those big guns weaving in and out of Cortinas, Minis and a Vauxhall or two. :)
landychris

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I love watching those clips as well, I'm a bit too young to have been there though.

I have been involved in club racing, I had a 120y Datsun with an A14, webers etc which was a nice little club car kicking around 900kg with about 110hp at the back wheels.

It was all fun until Cams changed the rule book so that I would have had to change my cage, seat, strengthen sections of the car and fit other so called safety bits and bobs so it made it un-affordable for me at the time.

I was only running it a couple of times a year in club events so I just stripped it in the end and sold off the parts.

With the nanny state world we live in these days it will never be again that we will see production cars running like they did in those days.

They do however run multiple classes in the Bathurst 12 hour which I wish was televised live, which is basically production cars and V8 supercars allow other classes like Formula Ford, V8 Utes and Historic touring cars to get a bit of Telly time so all is not lost for the lower classes.

The parity arguement is always going to be there but when you look at classes like the Porsche Carrera GT3 series where they are all the same, there is still no Parity to the rest of the field as those who have money to pay the best engineers to set up their cars and hire the best drivers win the racers.

Cheers Casper

Well I watched the whole race today and I enjoyed it. I than watched the F1 race at Japan. I enjoyed that too.
You people who whinge about V8 super car racing give me the ****s. Your not fans, other wise your might get your facts right. And I really cant be bothered putting you straight. Did any of you see how huge the crowds are ?
There are still Prodies racing theses days (I watch them too ) but the pit crew out number the spectators. Tis a real sham.
I dropped out of club racing, because I got a Mortgage.:(

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Cochrane vs kochie. While seemingly being one and the same, neither provide television worth watching.

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Originally Posted by Slunnie

oh, and what happened to Ford. They withdrew funding and support to all but their 2nd tier team and the rest made a business decision to go to Holden who would support them.

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Wasn't Ford's 'excuse' with 888 something along the lines of they wanted them to run blue or more blue to match Ford's corporate colours when 888's major sponsor's colour is red ?

As Ford withdrew financial support 888 removed all badging or identity with the blue oval so, as you say, Holden stepped in and offered $ so they jumped ship.

Pretty simple really.

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Originally Posted by Zute

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Did any of you see how huge the crowds are ?
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Which is another place V8SCA have been tripped up on, fudging crowd figures ;)

There was an aerial photo in one of the weekends papers comparing the mid eighties (I think) crowds to now across the top from Reid Park and McPhillamy to Forests Elbow.

It appeared to be a lot less people packing the fences in the modern shot.

Sorry, double entry of the same post.....:angel:

I’m a bit of a nostalgia fan, I enjoyed the old type of racing a lot more. Things were different in those days, the world has changed and so has motor racing. I did attend the mountain on two occasions in the 1980’s and loved it. I completely understand in order for the sport to survive in this day and age it take a bucket loads of cash and the sport has to adapt to support itself. I not naïve enough to believe the days of Holden, Ford, BMW, Jag, Nissan etc, etc lining up side by side on the grid for the start of the great race will ever happen again.:( But I would like to see another manufacture involved in what has become a two horse race. Possibly Chrysler???

The two make racing with cars that resemble what you can buy in body panels only is extremely boring.
The racing for me was much better when there was many makes of cars with only safety items added. I doubt that will ever happen again though.
I would like to see proper Commodores and Falcons we can buy compete with other cars like BMW,s Mercs, Skylines etc.

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Originally Posted by Zute

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You people who whinge about V8 super car racing give me the ****s. Your not fans, other wise your might get your facts right. And I really cant be bothered putting you straight. Did any of you see how huge the crowds are ?
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BTW, I did pilgrimage to the mount every year from 1982 as a kid in school to 1990 or thereabouts, mostly camping at McPhillamy Park although a couple of the later years were in the ARDC camping area down the bottom.

In the mid nineties I did a couple of years there, once as a support class driver and then as a mechanic, but no, I'm not a real fan :lol2:

For me, brand loyalty is why the format is the way it is, as long as there are Ford and Holden fans out there that dominate the crowd, it will be what it is, because the fans don't want Nissan or BMW or Mercedes beating their precious Ford or Holden.

Look at the 24hr, that is how Holden or Ford should be making it's mark, beating high profile racing Marques.

When it comes down to it, I don't care what they are driving, it's all about the driver and team, that's what wins races, not the car.

I hate the whole mentality of Holden V Ford:twisted:

My 2 cents,

Baz.

ps, I loved the last 10 laps, 2 very good drivers.