Reply With QuoteCAMS: the Confederation Against Motor Sport.Originally Posted by rick130
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There's truth in what you say, although I'll disagree on what Tony brought as it's killed the sport at lower levels.
Those that make a living from supplying goods and services to motorsport as a whole are thin in numbers these days and doing it tough, yet motorsport here in Oz was thriving during the worst years of recession and 17.25% interest rates in the early nineties.
Tony came from IMG, (Tennis promotion background) and was casting around for something that was chronically under-promoted so he could take it from scratch and build into a 'show' to really make some big bucks.
He looked at NASCAR, saw how they did things there, then went to the top drivers, told them they were being screwed over by the promoters and they needed a bigger slice of the cut and it went from there.
The big problem is that most promoters (permanent circuits or half the time car clubs like the ARDC and Light Car Club) needed the huge pay day that was a Touring Car round to subside the rest of the year, ie. all club, state and national rounds that weren't an ATTC round, as well as pay for track maintenance, improvements, (I know, nothing ever changed on that front) etc.
Grass roots motorsport needs permanent tracks, without those it can't survive.
Maybe I'm just a grumpy old bastard these days, and I admit I've really disliked Mr Cochrane ever since he appeared on the scene as IMO he was wrecking the sport I loved and at the time was heavily involved in.
As I said above, CAMS are as implicit from having no leadership when it was needed, but at the end of the day CAMS is just a collection of clubs with appointed staff, TC had a vision, dangled the carrot and here we are.
Wizard
CAMS: the Confederation Against Motor Sport.
Wizard
Am I being too cynical by reading something sinister in that bracketed comment?
Wagoo.
Swaggie
No, it's all about CAM's inability to generate parity.
Cheers
Slunnie
~ Discovery II Td5 ~ Discovery 3dr V8 ~ Series IIa 6cyl ute ~ Series II V8 ute ~
Moderator
I was actually meaning in the literal sense, but I like the way you two think
Swaggie
Cams scrutineers should have been declared outside the protection of law. Compulsory to stomp them to death on sight.
Nit picking rule book reading pedants. They are the reason I and quite a few others went back to speedway after our experiences at their hands.
It was Cams and their introduced multiple levels of bureaucracy and expense that destroyed club racing in Australia.
The late great Smoky Yunick had it right. He liked Indianapolis because it had "a little skinny rule book".
URSUSMAJOR
YarnMaster
Personally, I'm a car freak at heart, but the V8's have gone from being something worth watching to a snooze-fest.
to get my interest, they need to get the racing back to a believeable level, screw the parity, either the cars are made competitive within the rules, or dont race them....
Master
SupporterI loved the race when it was the Armstrong 500 then later the Hardie Ferodo 500/1000. When entry was limited to standard unmodified production saloons built or assembled in Oz. Great to see those big guns weaving in and out of Cortinas, Minis and a Vauxhall or two.
landychris
Swaggie
There has always been complaints about this class of racing.
Back when it was Group A etc, then it was a massive lack of parity with the related complaints about domination etc. These days they have done everything to have parity and there are still masses of complaints because under the skin where you cant see they are different and its harder to pass - like all control classes. It doesn't matter what they do, it will be wrong. The perfect breakaway 2 litre formula failed too. At the end of the day V8 Supercars probably have record audiences which is what matters in a sponsored spectator catagory.
Cheers
Slunnie
~ Discovery II Td5 ~ Discovery 3dr V8 ~ Series IIa 6cyl ute ~ Series II V8 ute ~
Swaggie
oh, and what happened to Ford. They withdrew funding and support to all but their 2nd tier team and the rest made a business decision to go to Holden who would support them.
Cheers
Slunnie
~ Discovery II Td5 ~ Discovery 3dr V8 ~ Series IIa 6cyl ute ~ Series II V8 ute ~
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