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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzaD1 View Post
    you need to do the aviation thing, when in normal range, have all the needles pointing vertical, so a quick glance will tell you if anything is wrong
    Also used to be done in rally cars... when rally cars had 'real' gauges...
    - tiny differances in angles can be picked up easier/faster than trying to read numbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CraigE View Post
    not illegal at all, ADRs changed a while ago to allow side exhausts, from memory it is now as long as they are rear of the door like Lakeside Pipes
    Unfortunately in a 110 wagon there are rear opening windows which require the exhaust to open after them.

    In a disco/rr the doors include part of the rear wheel arch so again lakeside exhausts aren't opening after the last opening window and therefore would be illegal.

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    How about this on a TDi..........
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    Quote Originally Posted by iPom View Post
    How about this on a TDi..........
    They aren't pointless, meant to help with the vacuum and dust build up on the back window

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    Unfortunately in a 110 wagon there are rear opening windows which require the exhaust to open after them.

    In a disco/rr the doors include part of the rear wheel arch so again lakeside exhausts aren't opening after the last opening window and therefore would be illegal.
    Yes but the picks are of a 130 and the pipes come out behind the rear door and rear side window. AFAIK any window behind that is exempt.
    I spoke to the RTA about this last year after seeing a lot of similar mods and Lakeside pipes making a comeback and was informed there were changes made to allow these pipes due to the fact there was little impact. A good example is a lot of station wagons actually have wind down windows, so does exactly the same effect.
    I looked at it as was thinking about doing a Torana race replica and part of that required a side exhaust behind the passenger door and was told by an RTA inspector that this was OK, 2 door with an opening window behind the exhaust tip.
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    I think this has to take "first prize".......what not to do with a tired range rover
    looks a bit like a vw beetle.......


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    Quote Originally Posted by iPom View Post
    How about this on a TDi..........
    haha, wonder if they also have a flat panel underside to improve aero efficency...

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    Quote Originally Posted by isuzurover View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by CraigE View Post
    Yes but the picks are of a 130 and the pipes come out behind the rear door and rear side window. AFAIK any window behind that is exempt.
    I spoke to the RTA about this last year after seeing a lot of similar mods and Lakeside pipes making a comeback and was informed there were changes made to allow these pipes due to the fact there was little impact. A good example is a lot of station wagons actually have wind down windows, so does exactly the same effect.
    I looked at it as was thinking about doing a Torana race replica and part of that required a side exhaust behind the passenger door and was told by an RTA inspector that this was OK, 2 door with an opening window behind the exhaust tip.
    Cut and pasted from elsewhere.

    The NCOP states that is has to protrude past the rear most side entry door or window, however ADR 42/00 states that...

    "the exhaust outlet must extend at least 40 mm beyond the furthermost
    outboard or rearmost joint of the floor pan which is not continuously
    welded or permanently sealed which could permit direct access of
    exhaust gases to the passenger compartment, but not beyond the
    perimeter of the vehicle when viewed in plan;"

    And

    "the exhaust outlet must be as near as practicable to the rear of the vehicle"

    May be legal based on the NCOP, however probably not based on the ADRs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by isuzurover View Post
    Cut and pasted from elsewhere.




    May be legal based on the NCOP, however probably not based on the ADRs.
    Myself reading that I would interperate the 130 being fine. The very grey issue is what constitutes the door or window. If we are determining a door such as a cargo hatch or a rear door like a 110 or most station wagons then we should not have an exhaust at all. many buses and trucks certainly dont conform strictly to this.
    Is it a case of an entry exit point into the vehicle accessible by occupants or any window or door?
    I think it would have a lot to do with the RTA inspectors interpretation.
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