How to use a roundabout.....

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Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

Tank's correct, John and Geof have nailed it with what people think is the rule.

If someone is entering a roundabout slowly and someone is speeding in from the right, although not yet across the roundabout threshold, the speeder will still take his "right of way" even though he doesn't have it and if they bingle the coppers will charge the slow driver not the driver who didn't give way to the car on his left but already on the roundabout.

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Technically, if someone speeds into a round-about and nails a slow vehicle that has already entered from the next entry point then it is a rear end collision. Therefore the faster driver is a fault. The rule is simply "give way to traffic on round-about" whether it is on your right or left. As soon as a vehicle's wheels cross the line, they are on the round-about and anyone still approaching has to give way to them. The only reason the slow car mentioned above would be charged is if the speedster simply lied and said they were on the round-about first. I'm sure the accident investigators would be able to determine who was in the right based on impact point, tyre marks and all that stuff though.

In reality though, you do well to be cautious because it is just plain dumb to purposely put your vehicle in front of a moron who doesn't understand the rules even if it's their fault.

That is so retarded and the biggest waste of bandwidth of al time

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Originally Posted by Ivan

What hacks me off over here is the idiots who indicate right on a roundabout, but are carrying straight on. I don't know where this idea comes from but have seen a lot of people doing this.
If you are going straight across a roundabout you do not signal until you are ready to pull off the roundabout (i.e. you are approaching your exit).

Ivan

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That was the original rule in NSW. You had to indicate right upon entering the roundabout and then left when exiting roundabout and of course there's always an exception. If you were exiting at the first exit you had to indicate left when entering.

Only a bureaucrat who only catches public tansport could invent a rule like that. These are the same bureaucrats who design cycleways where the cyclist has to make 4 ninety degree turns to cycle around the back of a bus shelter.

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Originally Posted by d@rk51d3

And to top it all off, indicating to leave the roundabout is only required "if convenient" in SA.

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In NSW as well, Regards Frank.

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Originally Posted by Ivan

What hacks me off over here is the idiots who indicate right on a roundabout, but are carrying straight on. I don't know where this idea comes from ....

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Its a NZ thing. I am surprised none of our kiwi bro have entered into the conversation. A friend of mine who spent 12 months in NZ said they are very.....well....different. Indicate left when entering (regardless of where you are exiting) then right as you progress around....then left as you exit.

Geez bro, that is confusing.

I'll let you tell the 150kg Maori dude he is an idiot Ivan.:angel:

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Originally Posted by Bundalene

I have seen this before - we call it a Mexican stand off

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You guys just love blaming Victorians for everything. :p

I had an arguement with a cop one day who had pulled me over for not indicating when leaving a roundabout, I was going straight ahead in a small single lane roundabout.
I asked him what was the signal for turning left, left blinker said he, correct said I.
I asked him what was the signal for turning right, right blinker said he, correct again.
What's the signal for going straight ahead, there is none, said the copper.
I also pointed out that if I followed the law to the letter, then I would have to indicate my my intention 30 metres before I intended taking that action. Which meant that by law I should indicate by using my left blinker at least 30 metres before the exit of the roundabout. Which means in most cases that would be well before entering the roundabout. Any poor bastard waiting in the street on my left would think it was safe to move into the roundabout, copper let me off this time, not long after the rule about signalling left "only where convenient" was introduced.
Roundabouts don't work where there are 2 large amounts of traffic converging at a roundabout where one lot of traffic "THINKS" they should give way to the other traffic on their right, Regards Frank.

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Originally Posted by Tank

............Roundabouts don't work where there are 2 large amounts of traffic converging at a roundabout where one lot of traffic "THINKS" they should give way to the other traffic on their right, Regards Frank.

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You are right about that, a sign a roundabout does not work due to too much traffic is when they have to use traffic lights to control the flow onto the roundabout.

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Originally Posted by Sleepy

Oh Mick, you would have to mention Trams. :eek: Try the big round about at the top of Elizabeth st in Melbourne. 7 dual lanes entering and leaving and a tram line through the middle. Give way to the right except for trams on your left, 3 pedestrian crossing, tram Y junction........:eek:

I'm with sprint, just shut your eyes and pray....

Sing to that one you Irish folk singing git.:p

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I second that. It was not one of my favourite intersections. I was recently in Melb and there is now traffic lights at this roundabout. It is much better.

Dave.

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Originally Posted by Tank

That's the problem with roundabouts, people still give way to the right, Give Way to the Right went out decades ago

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1999 in Victoria to be exact. It was changed from give way to right to help improve traffic flow when traffic was heavy.

Dave.

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Originally Posted by Mr Whippy

1999 in Victoria to be exact. It was changed from give way to right to help improve traffic flow when traffic was heavy.

Dave.

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In NSW it went when T (Terminating) intersections and Give Way signs were introduced and that was at least 30 years ago, Regards Frank.