Vic Seatbelt rules prior to 1967

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Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

Here ya go Crash.

http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/NR/rd...74/0/VSI21.pdf

I have a 1965 Mercedes. I does not require seat belts but, as the previous owner had them fitted, it has front lap/sash but no rear.

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Thanks, that was the document I was looking for.

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Originally Posted by JDNSW

Is there a retrospective requirement for engineering? Engineering of seat belt fittings, I suggest, did not exist prior to ADRs (about 1971) and probably, since it is state legislation, quite a bit after that, at least in some cases. This being the case, how do you determine whether, for example, inertia reel seatbelts were fitted to a 2a before or after it became necessary for them to be engineered?

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John

I was only suggesting that inertia-reel belts in a SIIa would need to be "engineered", because at the time the SIIa was assembled inertia-reel belts did not exist and therefore the anchorage for the inertia-reel could not have been OEM. Those two facts would indicate a need for their fitting to be engineered or at least certified by a seat-belt fitting station.

Diana

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Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

... or at least certified by a seat-belt fitting station.

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These strange beasts only exist in NSW (and recently established in VIC) AFAIK.

But either way, John's point is that inertia reel belts existed long before modification approval regulations OR seat belt fitting stations. However I suspect the onus would be on you to prove that the modification was done prior to that date.

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Originally Posted by isuzurover

These strange beasts only exist in NSW (and recently established in VIC) AFAIK. (did not know that)
... However I suspect the onus would be on you to prove that the modification was done prior to that date.

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The shiny bolts and new inertia-reel unit will make the work of convincing the inspector of an existing fitting all that much harder.

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Originally Posted by crash

The way some of the rules are written could be open for interpretation. I can not recal what year it is but if you can see around the windscreen you do not require wipers, could I argue that I have a fold down windscreen that I can fold it down during the rain hence no need for wipers?
Some years you only need wipers on drivers side.

With the seatbelts if I register it without seatbelts and later put seatbelts in would I have to get it engineered then?
I want to put in a 4 or 5 point harness (once a full cage is put in) but from my reading of the rules it says that the belts need to be retractable which a 4 or 5 point harness is not. I believe a proper 4 point would be safer than a lap belt that I would have to put in initially(or not at all - hence the question) - which would not require engineering

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re fold down windscreens, that's the case in NSW. The example put to me was WWII era Jeeps.

As to engineering harnesses, my experience is different. I've put an ex-race MG on full registration, and no-one batted an eyelid at the harness. They were more interested in sliding a wooden block under the exhaust. In NSW.

Regards
Max P

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Originally Posted by Tusker

re fold down windscreens, that's the case in NSW. The example put to me was WWII era Jeeps.

As to engineering harnesses, my experience is different. I've put an ex-race MG on full registration, and no-one batted an eyelid at the harness. They were more interested in sliding a wooden block under the exhaust. In NSW.

Regards
Max P

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In Qld, cars first registered before 1936 and with an opening windscreen do not require windscreen wipers.