Reply With QuoteWith the speed that car must have been going I don't think a full roll cage would have saved them, let alone a "safety cell".
Here's another picture:
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Me thinks this is a case where the immovable object was hit by the resistable object and the forces involved in the momentum of the vehicle (in particular the LHS frame) were greater than the strength of the welds attaching the LHS body frame to the roof and subframe sections. Remember this vehicle seems to have split along that bit of the Commodore roof with the rubber infill section over the joint.Originally Posted by TonyC
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Wizard
With the speed that car must have been going I don't think a full roll cage would have saved them, let alone a "safety cell".
Here's another picture:
Swaggie
Amazing how little space you can park 4/5ths of a commodore inWith the speed that car must have been going I don't think a full roll cage would have saved them, let alone a "safety cell".
Here's another picture:
Master
The corner in question isn't exactly tight up to that point, even a Disco goes around it without any drama at the speed limit, so the speed of the incident must have been huge for the car to leave the road in such a way. Feel sorry for the families of the guys in the car but I can't understand how there appears to be so many young kids in such big powerful cars.
Coming from the UK it's pretty damned expensive as a young driver to get yourself anywhere near anything with any power, from an insurance perspective. I can only conclude that it's the parenst paying for it all, and if so, why don't they pay for a bit of driver training when they do so?
Sad event anyway....
Wizard
SubscriberI've met a few people under 20 earning $130k plus on mines or oil rigs. Not out of the question for someone without much education to earn big dollars if they're willing to do the work that no one else will. But there will also be heaps of people in this age bracket earning anywhere from 30-50k who will have no issue spending all their money on a v6 or v8 commodore, either new or 2nd hand. They are not that expensive to own here, if you don't mind not having full comprehensive insurance.
In regards to the crash, I think it would be unrealistic to expect occupants of any car to live after that crash, also the stretch of road leading up to that area would allow even a corolla to hit 120kmh if the driver was daft enough. Its very unfortunate that this driver took one of his friends with him.
Master
It does amaze me in Perth the amount of light posts and telegraph poles on intersections and "highways" so close to the road. Even at 60kph hitting a hardwood telegraph pole is really going to suck. I'm coming from the UK where most are either removed and the power/phone lines are buried, or the lamp poles are set back from the road and or have armco barriers around them.
I have seen a fair number of commodores (mostly) wrapped around them in my time here.
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newspaper indicates 60km/hr zone
Riverside Drive Crash Two Dead
Swaggie
I have two questions
1. ARE cars REALLY getting safer?
2. Why is the road toll always increasing?
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The tow bar still looks pretty straight to me!...Here's another picture:
But that's the only bit, there was no space for anything living to have survived that.
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RoverLord
1. Cars are getting safer in ways that are defined by tests in certain specific conditions. They are getting safer in the sense of death or injury being less likely in an accident. They are not getting safer in that the driver is getting more and more insulated from what is actually happening at the same time as power/weight ratio is steadily increasing. While brakes, tyres and steering have improved, they have not kept up with this effect, and roads most definitely have not.
2. It isn't. Road toll, by any sensible measure (per car on the road, per kilometre travelled) has, with a certain amount of scatter, been decreasing ever since statistics started being collected. The absolute number of deaths has even decreased markedly in the last forty years, although the rate of decrease has at least temporarily flattened out. For example - 1984, 2508 deaths, 2008, 1342 (found these figures pretty easily - there's plenty more though to be found). This does not look like an increase to me!
John
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