Thread: A Sad end to a night out

Originally Posted by Ean Austral

Not sure Ralph as it happened behind me.. Our daughter seemed to think he may have had a heart attack before he fell, but only guessing.

Cheers Ean

Well there ya go!
I never considered the smashing glass as effect, only as cause. It probably makes sense that the glass was effect with another cause and a heart attack would explain it.

Ralph

Originally Posted by uninformed

my guess would be massive heart attack with collapse. If you have ambos on the way you dont stop CPR. Pumping the heart is pumping blood/oxygen to the brain. No oxygen to the brain for more than 3 mins and brain damage starts to occur. Dont be to concerned about the breathing if you are the only one doing it. Once again the compressions are pumping the lungs.

And at the rate of 100 compressions per minute. Anyone who has done this (and I have) will realise how physically exhausting it is. Have also had to apply and operate defib, but unfortunately both times without success.

Well done to your daughter and the others Ean

Originally Posted by numpty

And at the rate of 100 compressions per minute. Anyone who has done this (and I have) will realise how physically exhausting it is. Have also had to apply and operate defib, but unfortunately both times without success.

Well done to your daughter and the others Ean

I didnt say it wasnt. Most tough things in life are tough. People have been known to continue CPR for 20-30mins and get a result when professional help arrived.

Originally Posted by uninformed

I didnt say it wasnt. Most tough things in life are tough. People have been known to continue CPR for 20-30mins and get a result when professional help arrived.

When the Ambo's carried him out on the stretcher they had a machine hooked up to him which looked as tho it gave constant CPR..

In a crude way it looked like a drill press that had a hydrolic ram against his chest pumping up and down, I can only guess it was designed to remove the human exhuastion possibility.. If that makes any sense..

Cheers Ean

Originally Posted by Ean Austral

When the Ambo's carried him out on the stretcher they had a machine hooked up to him which looked as tho it gave constant CPR..

In a crude way it looked like a drill press that had a hydrolic ram against his chest pumping up and down, I can only guess it was designed to remove the human exhuastion possibility.. If that makes any sense..

Cheers Ean

havent heard about them but that means nothing. It will not just be for the phyiscal side of it. It frees the Ambo to do other things. Normally they are in 2's so one is going to have to drive. The other can be administering drugs/Iv etc and getting vital signs ..... that would be my guess.

I'm doing my refresher tomorrow.. Touch wood, I never get the opportunity to put it into Practice.

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It's called a Lucas
We trialled these in Holland many years ago... we didn't like it too much, but some people did...
The reason it wasn't liked was that it increased the on site time, and was not very easy to use. It was also found that there were mostly firies or police there to help out. Not always the case, but when added training time, space in the ambo, we found it's cons outweighed its pros.
I believe it is being used in some regions and not others... not sure though.
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Sorry it wasn't a better outcome...

Yep thats the gadget all right.

Cheers Ean