Peugeot 306 opinions

A Commodore is also on the list as we are a Holden orientated family apart from 4x4s. However a bit big maybe for first car.
Anyone got any thoughts on a Jag XJS 2000 model. She rather liked that for under $10k.
Going to have a quick look at a Kia Sportage I think 2000 or 2001 model auto for $3k ono. If it last 2 years at that price I would be happy. Any real pitfalls with these.

What are the km's on the vehicle? Anything nearing 200,000 means it is going to cost you alot of money. Having had three 306's, and talking to other pug owners, under 200 they're fine after, well. After about 220 everything progressively falls apart, and I mean everything. The glue holding the entire interior together melts, stuff behind the dash disintegrates, (it's only a 12 hour job for a mechanic to remove and replace the dash, three of us did it in 14 :eek:) engine ancillaries are all failed/failing, window mechanisms, brakes, electrics, and all sorts of things you didn't know even existed. Maybe we've had three lemons but I'd rather think not. We've still got one 306 that is not worth selling so we keep fixing it, recently, having been filling up the power steering fuid from empty to full every day, had a look and discovered a little steel pipe was cracked, took it to mechanic as we couldn't fix it. So they take 4 days and 3 hours labour to fix that and when we go to pick it up they showed us the ram is leaking too:mad:
Having said all that they ARE a fantastic car to drive just get one that has low km's or been garaged all it's life, they don't like the sun. Parts are reasonably priced too. Just my two cents worth, hope it helps.


Lane

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Originally Posted by CraigE

JC,
Thanks for the info, just how unsafe are the soft tops in comparison to the hard tops and equivalent year vehicles?

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I was mostly concerned with ROP, the hardtop being the pick and structurally better to protect the occupants due to most likely having better deformation to the vehicle and leaving the passenger cell unharmed.

At least that is my thoughts, these vehicles were too old to have a sophisticated pop up roll bar etc like I believe a Z series BMW has?

JC

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Originally Posted by Chucaro

Oh well Big fellow, how long took GMH and Ford to have a sedan with disc breaks and independant suspension 30 years or so after the european car manufacturers.?
Peugueot have it on the very early 504 models when for GMH and Fords having power asisted breaks was a step foward on some models. :D
I used to have Cortinas Gt models and they were not even close to a 504 in handling and safety.
Now, I can fix my 505 with little money and go to places safe and cheap where any new car can go at an extra cost and risks. :D

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You said a 505 is better than any Falcodore or Jap car. That just isn't the case. In fact, it is so far off base as to be laughable, hence my post.

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Originally Posted by CraigE

Very interesting thanks. Not possible to place a restrictor in the hose to get the 2.7mm effect. Not something I would do without expertise. Just throwing it out there. Not the same I know but we used to do that with orifice plates in mining industrial pumps.
For the right price I am not over concerned as I expect it to only last her a couple of years.
A little surprised with the safety, I thought Pugs were very safe when compared to similar model Commodores etc.
Cheers
Craig

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Or a flow controller, sounds an easy fix

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Originally Posted by BigJon

You said a 505 is better than any Falcodore or Jap car. That just isn't the case. In fact, it is so far off base as to be laughable, hence my post.

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Well it is a matter of opinions and all of us have the right to have one and be respected.
I will not laugh if you believe that the falcodores are better than the peugueot or if you belive that are good cars, I just not agree with it and that is it. ;)
Many of us believe that the County with a oil burner engine is the best LR in his class ever produced, it is that laughable as well or not because it is a Land Rover.

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Originally Posted by BigJon

You said a 505 is better than any Falcodore or Jap car. That just isn't the case. In fact, it is so far off base as to be laughable, hence my post.

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The 505 only has better ride, handling, comfort, quality and owner satisfaction. The Falcodores of course beat it everywhere else.

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Originally Posted by rovercare

Or a flow controller, sounds an easy fix

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Try selling someone a $100- hose (even when it's far cheaper than original) and then saying, wait you'll need two, plus additional fittings plus a flow control valve (that's massive compared to the hose) then try to cram it all in there. Then have to explain how to set it up, without doing a flow test on the system if you could unplug everything and build a manifold to suit the speciality ends to circulate the fluid.

Much more of a headache than it's worth. Plus the pump is fitted between the boot lid hinge swing arc, the rear seat bulkhead, the inner guard (which is bulged out to fit) and when the roof comes down the hinge mechanism intrudes into the space allocated for the hoses which is part of the issue. Either they get rubbed through by the hinges if the guy who fitted them did them the right way or get broken off at the pump end fitting if they weren't bundled together and just left to their own devices. Funny part is that if you make them shorter, run them in a way that looks completely wrong they are fine.

Well looked at the 306. Nice car, not bad nic, but the guy could not get the roof to retract. He reckons it had something to do with the doors being open and confusing the computer???? $7990.
Also had a look at a 2002 Astra Covertible 2002, 1 owner under 100 000kms, auto Bertone edition. $9999.
The one my daughter liked the most was a 2002 Freeloader 116,000kms. V6 auto with leather. $9999:o

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Originally Posted by CraigE

Anyone got any thoughts on a Jag XJS 2000 model. She rather liked that for under $10k.

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I stopped reading after this.