Reply With Quotemore money to pay for the lard gutted anti smoking brigades heart by-passes.
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But the Government will have all this additional excise to pay for more Customs staff! And Both you and I know that the resources raised by a government department are always used to the benefit of that department!Originally Posted by VladTepes
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more money to pay for the lard gutted anti smoking brigades heart by-passes.
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Thats because heart surgeons refuse to perform the bypass surgery on smokers because they have a significantly higher risk of mortality and it isn't worth the risk or the insurance premium to do it.
It also leaves more money for the respiratory ward where all the smokers with emphysema, lung and throat cancer reside and reminisce about how much enjoyment they get from their smoking. It is also where they complain about how heavy the oxygen bottle they have to carry around is and how it inconveniences their smoking.
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ForumSage
SupporterI am 1.8 metres tall and weigh 63kg and class myself as one of the anti smoking brigade.
So I have two questions.
Are you a smoker or a smoking advocate?
How much do you weigh?
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Stevo, I was waiting for it.But the correct connotation for your usage is "off" not "on"....
Wizard
SupporterAlways good for a laugh the whole Smokers versus Anti Smokers "Thing".
Frothing posters on one side, And laid back **** stirrers enjoying a durrie on the other.
Ban all duty free I say!
And if they actually do ban smoking someday im sure that alcohol will be deservedly next and then who knows? Eating meat? Mandatory Veganism?
The thing is...... Why judge?
Smokers hurt mainly themselves (yeah yeah passive smoking blah blah)
Drinkers hurt mainly themselves (yeah yeah Domestic violence, Drink driving and nightclub brawls Blah blah)
Cyclists hurt mainly themselves ( Sucking in huge quantities of air chockers with pollutants, Festering arsegrapes and bad road manners blah blah)
We all have bad personal habits (Although the serial self abusers only hurt themselves and love it!) and its easy to point and pontificate but wouldnt it be better if we all had good enough manners to just live and let live?
And before you ask I may be one of more of the above mentioned practitioners...
Tony
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It does get up my nose that health care costs are way higher than they should be because of other people's bad habits. I, of course have none
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Hi Tony
There is one aspect that smokers generally speaking are renown for and the other groups not.Yes discarding one's butts is not 100% of smokers, but the rest of the smoking population sure make up for the ones that don't.
- carnivores rarely leave their disgarded bones lying around.
- cyclists don't leave their pushies or lycra shorts littering the gutters, lawns and footpaths.
- but yes beer bottles and cans have a habbit or littering the landscape.
- but none of them compare to the toxic waste of cigarette butts dropped everywhere.
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ForumSage
SupporterOn the other hand, there does seem to be an increasing amount of evidence that smoking greatly enhances your ability to turn a blind eye to scientific evidence about its effects on the smoker and on passive smokers.
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Wizard
SupporterTrue, Butts are a nasty by product but that's more due to lack of manners and respect.
Many countries in Asia and Europe deal with this culturally and with punitive action.
A workshop I had years ago had a few simple rules one of which was no smoking in the shop and I set up a nice smokers area with sand filled ashtrays which one of the smokers dutifully sieved and cleansed and one of the smokers just plain abused.
So the abuser spent 30 mins each day before going home and off the clock cleaning the area and was also given the broom task IN the shop as he trekked in a few buts under his boots.
Newly enlightened and reformed over a period of months he became a responsible person with new improved habits because he was punished for his actions and fairly so (IMO)
Most of the smokers I know ASK me what to do with the butts and ask if its ok to light up (Do I mind?)
But yep Butts are a blight, its weird that Government legislates that smokes now have to go out of not sucked on within a certain time for bushfire safety as well as legislating that you cant smoke anywhere especially in a car with kids (Who the hell does that anyway?) and yet they haven't solved the dreaded fag butt issue.
Anyway, Life is too short for worrying or fussing over the inadequacies of others..
When you can just hose em down with CO2 extinguishers!
Tony
Charleston Green 1997 TDi Disco R380
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Silver 98 Volvo C70
Red 88 740 HP Turbo
Silver Volvo 740 Wagoon
1998 Volvo S90 Royal
W116's, C107 and a W123 onna stick
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