Qualifications

Ahhh Engineers...

The Oompa Loompas of Science.

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Originally Posted by LandyAndy

No boxes for me either Ben.
I have a Final Trim/Construction Grader driver ticket that is recoknised nationally;);););););)
Andrew

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Doesn't anyone understand the meaning of "etc...." :D

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Originally Posted by Slunnie

By that statement you're saying a B.Eng must have a compulsery thesis.

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In almost all cases Yes. At least for students eligible to be awarded an Hons. degree.

Are all B.Ed degrees 4 years these days?

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Originally Posted by isuzurover

Doesn't anyone understand the meaning of "etc...." :D




In almost all cases Yes. At least for students eligible to be awarded an Hons. degree.

Are all B.Ed degrees 4 years these days?

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PLUCK YOU BEN:p:p:p:p:p:p:p
You can study for years for a degree but it wouldnt get you close to what I do in "ETC":cool::cool::cool::cool:
Each to their own buddy;););)
Andrew

There are some missing qualifications there, Diploma, Associate Diploma and Post Graduate Diploma.

It is interesting to mention that now some universities are taken into account, work experience and short courses done to be able to get a post graduate diploma without have bachelor qualification.

Not that it is important to me and less at my age but in my case I have a diploma in agriculture with suinoculture and agriculture mechanization specialization.
Also I have a diploma in Industrial Maintenance.
As a work experience in the field I have many years as service manager to John Deere, Class and Ford. Which will be my highest qualification? :confused:
In the mechanical field 30 years experience in machine tools, robotics and CNC and NC tools. Is this give me a higher qualification that a bachelor degree?
I guess that this is just an example among many that a formal high qualification it is relative not only to the highest formal education obtained but also to what the person have done in his/her

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Originally Posted by Chucaro

There are some missing qualifications there, Diploma, Associate Diploma and Post Graduate Diploma.
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In the mechanical field 30 years experience in machine tools, robotics and CNC and NC tools. Is this give me a higher qualification that a bachelor degree?
I guess that this is just an example among many that a formal high qualification it is relative not only to the highest formal education obtained but also to what the person have done in his/her

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30 years in a field certainly makes you experienced and an asset to any employer, however unfortunate as it may be, the person entering the industry with a bachelor or higher degree is more likely to climb the ladder quicker and become your boss while he still can't operate the CNC.

It has long been recognised that people with trade and technical institution qualifications are the can do people in the company while the university graduates get the kudos and higher salaries.

This from someone who has both a trade equivalent certificate, journeyman equivalent qualifications, bachelor, grad dip and masters degrees. Then I woke up to myself, dropped my thesis and came back to enjoying myself with my original interest Land Rovers! :D

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Originally Posted by isuzurover

Doesn't anyone understand the meaning of "etc...." :D




In almost all cases Yes. At least for students eligible to be awarded an Hons. degree.

Are all B.Ed degrees 4 years these days?

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Bachelor of teaching -3 years
Bachelor of Education- 4 years

If that it is the case, then why with my experience I can do a postgraduate diploma and be more qualified than a bachelor?
Also remember that a trade qualifications (in my time, early 60's) was a certificate and not a diploma which was obtained in a college of advanced education or a university.
As I said before it is not important now @ 66+ and was not important when I was on the work force.

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Originally Posted by Chucaro

If that it is the case, then why with my experience I can do a postgraduate diploma and be more qualified than a bachelor?
Also remember that a trade qualifications (in my time, early 60's) was a certificate and not a diploma which was obtained in a college of advanced education or a university.
As I said before it is not important now @ 66+ and was not important when I was on the work force.

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Because it is called adult entry and they are giving credit for 30 years experience. There are people who go into business masters degrees without ever setting foot in a university before.

It all depends upon the university, the faculty and the applicant (and sometimes how much to you are willing to pay). Going into a higher degree without undergraduate quals is quite a challenge and not recommended unless you have a lot of motivation, a supportive family and usually significant support for the student from the faculty.

BUT WELL WORTH IT IN THE END, if only because it allows you a different way to look at the chosen industry and the application of new knowledge.

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Originally Posted by Brian Hjelm

Ah. U of M. The Football State degree factory.

What school did you go to? What is your father's lodge? Do you live in T'rak or P'ran. Oh, good. Here is your degree.

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Hey Brian
I spent 14 years studying and working to get my 4 degrees including a PhD from UoM. My parents were migrants and I don't live in Toorak or Prahran. Coincidently I am now a Prof at Uni of Melb, that came about in part by publishing more than 100 peer reviewed research articles and securing more tha $12M in research grants. I can tell you that my PhD students work their arses off doing research at the Royal Melb Hospital, they well and truly earn their degrees. Statements like yours really make you sound a bit stupid which I'm sure your not. By the way my only car is a 1990 RRC
Cheers
Nick

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Originally Posted by d3syd

I think we should organise a trivial pursuit night. AULRO team vs Nissan/Toyota owners group(s). ;)

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We'd have to pick a venue with deep gutters and wide doors so the Nissan/Tojo owners knuckles won't drag on the ground and their heads will fit in the door.