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Interesting to see what they would make of the latest 'Passport' products. They are a GPS navigator, radar and laser detector, pick up microwave emissions and can tell you if there is a wi-fi nearby. They look like a GPS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tusker
I asked a police officere at school the other day whren he came to lecture about drinking and grugs or whatever, he was highway patrol officer and seemed like he did things right, but was a good bloke, He told me the actual law (in NSW) is 10% + 2, he went on to say he doesn't even book people unless they are more than 20 over in school zones, i honestly thought he was having a lend of me, but i'm on my red p's and have driven past highway patrol officers while sitting on about 120kph, even had one overtake me !!!! still don't see why anyone would get booked the police don't seeme to interested in people that are just cruising and not doing anything stupid, you must have to be moving to get booked in this state.
As for lights i love it when people flash for a mobile camera or a speed trap (especially coming up to a hill in the 300tdi LOL), if someone looks honest enough i'll flash them, never any dodgy looking people though, and always flash fellow Landies
The Law is any speed in excess of the posted limit. Whether or not it is enforced and to what degree is down to the investigating officer, that's the discretion that is not offered when fixed or mobile speed cameras are employed.Quote:
Originally Posted by MR LR jnr.
Any person flashing lights to warn of a police operation, for whatever reason, is condoning their behaviour. I'm not saying 'hang 'em high', but you do your job (as a licence holder) and let the police do theirs. They might just grab someone with a warrant, disqualified or using an unregistered vehicle...or maybe just speeding??
As for 102 in a 100 - that's not something police can do because the equipment (Lidar and Radar) has operating limits and guidelines giving them certain tolerances, and 2 kph over is not within their tolerance of accuracy. So i'm tipping that was a speed camera - again, which is something only designed to bleed us. In NSW police don't have anything to do with speed cameras, so that's the RMS.
Anyway, we've each got an opinion and experience but you wouldn't tip off a shoplifter or some other crook, so why do it for people who are careless or don't give a bugger about others....
Dunno about the police officer at your school mate. I don't think he's sending the right message - or accurate information.
Matt.
I reckon it's simple.
There's a posted speed limit. Whether you like it or not, heed it.
Can it get any simpler?
Pete :)
While I agree with you on sticking to the posted limits, it could be much simpler if they had a bit more consistancy on how often speeds limits change sometimes. There are some roads I drive on that go from 50 to 60 to 70, back to 60, up to 80 and back to 70 within a few KM - and, you guessed it - these are areas that always have speed cameras in them. They make big bucks from confusing motorists like this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre
Funny then how speed as a direct cause of Fatalities only accounts for 0.8% of all road fatalities, why don't you have a shot at the biggest killer on our roads, INATTENTION, you know, ****wits texting or talking on their phones or checking in the glovebox, or putting on their mascara or lippy or reaching for another beer or trying to see what that last speed sign (of the previous 5 in the last kilometre) said.Quote:
Originally Posted by mudmouse
Get off the speed bandwagon and get real, speed is not the culprit, it's the Moron driving the car, regards Frank.
Inattention could be a reason for speeding, and I've been referring to excess speed. All your points I agree with but this thread is about flashing headlights to warn drivers of police operations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tank
If someone travels too fast and stops too quickly they get dead. So how do you slow people down so they obey the laws - or not text, do make up etc? You educate them and if that doesn't work it gets punitive.
I've met plenty of families who wish their loved ones had been driving slower, so they could've stopped in time or taken a corner, but they didn't. So if excess speed was a factor for them, it's a good enough bandwagon to hitch onto for me.
Matt.
I watched a program on TV last night which showed an undercover bike cop telling his mate (on another bike) in front/behind of various infringments being done by motorists, to which his mate then pulled them over and booked them. He had a camera on his helmet and seemed to be constantly talking to his off sider. I think this is a brillant idea. But I cant see why they cant just send the camera info to a judge and just have them booked that way. On camera he has all the relevant info about the car, and can even get a pic of the driver, which means they cant sit there and deny it in court if it comes to that.
If there were more cops on bikes cruising through peak hour traffic doing this, they'd make squillions. Just on phone users alone they'd have a field day.
I've been done for speeding several times, and even wreckless driving once. My opinion is I deserved to get caught and booked, so I did my time without complaint,, (well, you know, the usual grumblings). But I do believe we dont have nearly enough cops out there to get the job done right when it comes to cars/traffic.
I'm not hardnosed about this matter. But clearly it's driver responsibility to comply, and whether there multiple changes of speed limits or none, drivers have the crashes, not the cameras. Drivers exceed the posted limits, not the cameras. Avoid the revenue raising by driving at or below the speed limit. Where posted speeds are dumb, complain about them and take some intelligent, co-operative action - don't snivel about it!
Police who use discretion in speed related matters are entirely within their rights, and are to be applauded for it if it's obvious that no harm can be done. But surely, any driver who HOPES that it will be the case all the time is dreaming..
And I'll say it again, it comes down to drivers accepting responsibilty for their actions. A responsible driver cannot see it any other way.
Rant off.
Pete, the narrow gutted....:angel: