Staun Tyre Deflators Legal Action

I would just be happy if someone could find my set. I want to use them to build my own tanami style pump. I found them useless at tyre deflating. So brought the ARB copy of the currie enterprises deflator (I think they are built under licenses though).

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Originally Posted by dullbird

I think that's a bit harsh Frank!!:mad: I have what looks like staun imitation deflators but they came free with the genuine black rat strap I bought which is why I have stauns and imitation set.

There may also be people out there that dont know they are imitations of stauns.. and think they are a product in their own right!!

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Sorry, didn't mean it, was angry, Regards Frank.

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Originally Posted by clubagreenie

So where does it come in where a company like Ryco as soon as a new model comes out buys a spare filter and then copies it for dimensions but potentially improves ability to filter with better materials. It's still a filter, same size, copied from a genuine article. It's how it works, had a discussion when I found that their D2 filter was listed the same as the D1 whih is similar but slightly different in one dimension. Looks like it fits but doesn't seal if the D1 is fitted to D2, D2 into D1 you just need squeeze it in.

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Clubagreenie, car manufacturers do not build oil filters, Ryco et al supply OEM filters to GM, Ford etc., and to the aftermarket, Regards Frank.

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Originally Posted by turps

I would just be happy if someone could find my set. I want to use them to build my own tanami style pump. I found them useless at tyre deflating. So brought the ARB copy of the currie enterprises deflator (I think they are built under licenses though).

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Why did you find them "useless at tyre deflating", they are possibly the easist deflator on the market to use as well as the quickest, I could deflate all 4 tyres before you could do one with the ARB deflator, Regards Frank.

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Originally Posted by turps

I would just be happy if someone could find my set. I want to use them to build my own tanami style pump. I found them useless at tyre deflating. So brought the ARB copy of the currie enterprises deflator (I think they are built under licenses though).

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Originally Posted by Tank

Why did you find them "useless at tyre deflating", they are possibly the easist deflator on the market to use as well as the quickest, I could deflate all 4 tyres before you could do one with the ARB deflator, Regards Frank.

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I agree frank, I have watched from a distance many a time guys using the ARB deflators....I do one lap of the car to put the stauns on than have a kick of the footy, when I hear the last staun shutting off one more quick lap around the car to retrieve

I think sadly its all an unpredictable mess. Politicians have failed to protect their people. Failed to keep the lawyers under thumb; and people are generally greedy. Go the US way and its all too expansive, go the Chinese way and cheaper and cheaper will also have it's poor results eventually.
Somehow with all its injustices we have perhaps the best outcome. Want genuine, want Aus jobs or alleged quality then we pay for it. Want a lucky dip on the previous and by Asian.
It is frustrating that within weeks the people who think of nothing just rip someones else's work off. That's here in Aus with online sellers or in Asia manufacturing.
But the west who lead the charge with inventing need to somehow twist it so Asia simply cant do what they do. Foreigners cant pull out of Chinese industry without leaving substantial investment in the county I hear, and there is no intellectual property there. Where over here it seems grab what you want if you have the money.
Once again an Australian entity is subject to the level playing field the polies have created. I bet Staun are enjoying "free enterprise" at the moment which works boths ways.

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Originally Posted by newhue

But the west who lead the charge with inventing need to somehow twist it so Asia simply cant do what they do.


and there is no intellectual property there.

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I knew a Brisbane manufacturer of lightweight steel goods, mostly furniture, using high tensile steels for lower weight. He was a great innovator and held a few patents to do with tooling and processes he had developed. Mid to late 1970's he became aware that his patents were being openly manufactured, sold, and used in Japan. He sought legal advice and commenced legal action in Japan in order to either stop these infringements or get some royalties paid. He told me he knew he was on a hiding to nothing when he realised his was the only white face in the court. He reckoned he would have had a better result if he had spent the $300,000 on beer, girls, and sports cars.

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Originally Posted by dullbird

staun imitation deflators but they came free with the genuine black rat strap I bought which is why I have stauns and imitation set.

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I bought a subscription to 4WD action mag once and got a set of Genuine Stuans in a leather carry pouch with Staun embosssed on the leather.

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Originally Posted by Brian Hjelm

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He reckoned he would have had a better result if he had spent the $300,000 on beer, girls, and sports cars.

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hooyeh that's a LOT of fun for a long time...aahhh

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Originally Posted by clubagreenie

So where does it come in where a company like Ryco as soon as a new model comes out buys a spare filter and then copies it for dimensions but potentially improves ability to filter with better materials. It's still a filter, same size, copied from a genuine article. It's how it works, had a discussion when I found that their D2 filter was listed the same as the D1 whih is similar but slightly different in one dimension. Looks like it fits but doesn't seal if the D1 is fitted to D2, D2 into D1 you just need squeeze it in.

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Ryco/GUD are a minor player in the international filter scene, and their products are unobtainable outside AU/NZ/ZA. I doubt any of their filters are improvements over OEM designs. The largest filter manufacturers (Donaldson and MANN) have barely heard of GUD...

But yes, filter manufacturers do this sort of thing all the time, but they are careful to make them different enough to skirt around patents.

A a conference a while back, someone from Filter company B was asked by an audience member "what is the diference between your product and the (equivalent/original) product from filter company A. The presenter foolishly answered "If I was to be honest, I would say the colour". Immediately following, Filter company A lodged a lawsuit.

Most of the claims of filter company A were dismissed in the lawsuit, however there are now a couple of countries where Filter company B is not allowed to sell that particular product.

IP is meaningless unless it is patented. If the companies which have (allegedly) copied staun's products were smart enough when developing their products, then staun will not be able to touch them. I think any threats against retailers are hollow.

[NB - I am not a lawyer]