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Good comments......just on the bolded parts.....if you watch enough of the DVD's and meet some of them ie I have met Roothy and a couple of the staff...they are just like you and me. People who like pedicures and chardonnay don't tend to get out and camp and 4WD. Anyone could be considered a redneck dependant on ones outlook and judgements.Quote:
Originally Posted by wardy1
Regards
Stevo
Most track damage that I have seen is caused by rain. I was driving some track when I was in Townsville an they were ok for most cars then after the wet and cyclones we had up there the rain had made the tracks so much harder, and that was with two weeks of rain not driving.
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No one beats Mother Nature when it comes to destruction and damage,Quote:
Originally Posted by lambrover
Regards
Stevo
Well said stevo, wardy and lamb rover, I agree in its entirety. I've watched a few 4wd action dvd's with my mates who get them but never got them myself, so can't really comment on what those guys are like. But the cause in this is something we should all be behind, no matter where you come from, your class or what kind of 4wd you have, Even if you have a brand new Evoque you should get behind it, i'm sure the beaches will be threatened haha.
Ho HumQuote:
Originally Posted by 87County
Another one that blames it on bigger wheels:mad:
I for one run bigger wheels and tyres,and I can guarantee you that I cause a lot less track damage than most vehicles running around with small tyres,that are spinning and ripping tracks to pieces.
The only reason I didn't say "all" vehicles running small tyres is that some dont bother to take their 4wd off the bitumen,and these are usually the biggest whingers;)
People don't necessarily have to like Roothy,but they need to realise that he is a persona that is there to sell magazines.The point is to have a combined voice,that shows the authorities that there are a lot of people that want to have access to this this country NOW,as it is no use locking it all up,and having it,if no one will ever be able to see it!!!
or how about damage to tracks from people going out in muddy conditions with no terrains or all terrains, IMO MT's do less damage to the tracks through less wheelspin and messing up of the track, dont get me wrong, sometimes you come across some tracks where wheelspin to clear the tread is the only thing to get you up (a few hills in the otways come to mind), but if blokes are out there struggling to go anywhere due to their tyres, they tear up the track a lot more
What's this crap about "extreme greenies " locking up tracks, load of bull****, every track I have seen closed is because some ****** like 4WD TV flogs the **** out of the track, which is usually a "Firetrail" to allow access to fight fires. Then State Forests or NPWS come along and lock the trail off, because they don't have the money to repair them. Example: Tuross Falls camping area, closed because of fear of litigation if a branch from a tree falls on your noggin. Hundreds of trails/tracks closed from storm damage, trees down and culverts washed away, why closed, because they don't have the money to open them. I was talking to a State Forest officer about why so many of the lower South Coast Forest trails were closed, he said because of storm damage from 18 months ago and they would not be opened again unless they had to log in the area, WHY, because of lack of funds to do so.
So if 4WD action and Roothy want to do some good, donate some money to State Frorest and NPWS for the opening of storm damaged/yahoo 4WDrivers damaged trails. I t will be years before these trails are opened if ever and nothing to do with Greenies conspiring to close every track in Australia. Two Thirds of Bendethra camping area was closed because NPWS didn't have the money to send a Front end loader into the park to push 20 tonnes of river gravel into a hole on the exit of the river on the third crossing, if I owned a loader I would have done it for them, no Greenies involved here, Regards Frank.
All people have to do is the responsible thing. Stop leaving rubbish everywhere and wrecking the place.
Most 4WD'ERS do the right thing.
Unfortunately all walks of life have access to tracks and national parks and dont all have the same level of respect for their surrowndings.
Putting money behind 1 lobby group is far more beneficial than several. Its like having several many super funds. Not as much money goes to the cause.
Personally i love the 4WDA DVD's. I have never seen them do something i wouldn't do or drive in a way i wouldn't. I challenge every one of the whiners on here to go to the news agent. Pry open your wallet and buy the latest issue of the magazine. Watch the enclosed DVD of Fraser Island and take a long hard look at yourself. This is the sort of thing we stand to loose.
The whole 'we dont have the money to fix it' excuse coming out of every states National Parks is a load of crap and just a means to an end from our Green party dominated government to lock gates and keep people out.
I love driving this country. When i take my holidays i spend them here in Aus trying to see as much of this land as i can. I love my fishing and i love my camping. I love my fourby and i intend to keep using it for what it was designed for.
This is gonna end up in the soapbox haha