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    Quote Originally Posted by superquag View Post
    You might have, if you'd done your homework... Eiffel tower is built of iron ...

    I'd forgotten that, but assuming it's wrought iron that's even better. Blacksmiths are always looking for a supply of WI! (It's not made any more as it's too cost ineffective compared to mild steel. And by the way Wrought Iron is the material. These days it seems marketers use 'wrought iron' for any product they think looks like a blacksmith made it. )

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    here is the hyperlink to the carbon tax and refrigrants

    http://www.environment.gov.au/atmosphere/ozone/sgg/index.html#carbonprice

    There is a free seminar being held in every capital city the brochure is 2 meg so if you want it pm me and I will forward it to your email addy

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    Now that there's this exorbitant tax on sythetic refrigerants with high global warming potential. It has to be the time to convert to natural hydrocarbon refrigerants.

    You won't find me on: faceplant; Scipe; Infragam; LumpedIn; ShapCnat or Twitting. I'm just not that interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blitz View Post
    here is the hyperlink to the carbon tax and refrigrants

    http://www.environment.gov.au/atmosphere/ozone/sgg/index.html#carbonprice

    There is a free seminar being held in every capital city the brochure is 2 meg so if you want it pm me and I will forward it to your email addy
    This may also be useful:
    http://www.epa.vic.gov.au/climate-ch...frigerants.pdf

    It is clear from this thread that one thing the carbon tax will do is greatly increase the uptake of "green" refrigerants such as HCs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by isuzurover View Post
    It is clear from this thread that one thing the carbon tax will do is greatly increase the uptake of "green" refrigerants such as HCs.
    I have organised for myself and my trainers to get the mandatory trainer training so we can deliver it for industry. Co2, hydrocarbons and ammonia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Whippy View Post
    Paul. As you have 12 months supply at the old price, does that mean your customers also get the old price when you service a fridge?
    Don't service any fridges.......

    On the big stuff,we will have to use the old prices or we won't win too many jobs.

    Which brings up another issue,our suppliers have 10's of thousands of dollars of the stuff in stock that they did not pay the tax on,yet are charging it out with thetax added


    Anyway,rants over,i have had my say,just have to wait & see what happens in the next few months.

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    And to add further,quote from today's Courier mail page 48,

    " Mr Sims said complex investigations were looking at massive price rises for refrigerant gases"

    Rod Sims is chairman of the ACCC.

    Now let's wait & see if they actually do anything.......................

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    You dont understand, the government has changed the definition, if you are not on welfare and you actually pay tax you are not considered a "household" but are considered a government debtor and cash cow.

    More than that, if the carbon tax is $23/tonne then the maximum increase on the refrigerants (if they were pure carbon and discharged to the atmosphere) should be 2.3¢/kg and given that they should remain in a sealed system there should be no tax because the gas is sequestrated in the system.
    The price is based on $23 per ton of CO2 equivilent. for example the refridgerent R134a has as much global warming potential of 1300 tonnes of CO2 so the levy on each ton is $29900.

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