Thread: carbon levy on refrigerants

Originally Posted by ramblingboy42

it is not a tax, nor is it a levy......
looks like the abbott propaganda machine is winning.....
dont challenge me on this, do your homework.....

Go on..........

Originally Posted by Ean Austral

R22 is used on most trawlers and if buying 60kg bottle's we used to pay $12 / kg 2 yrs ago . Last year it went to $22 / kg , this year last quoted price was $38 / kg.

Then get a letter in the mail 3 weeks ago saying the price will rise significantly with the Carbon tax.

Doesn't sound much, but the system holds 200kg and carry 120kg spare.

Anyone want to buy a prawn trawler...

Cheers Ean

PS forgot to mention that have all the Gov levies ontop of those prices

The new cost price for R22 rolled off the fax today from one of our suppliers,$58/KG
plus greeny levy plus GST

It gets better,R134a,if i get last weeks cost price,add on $30 for the carbon tax,which is the correct amount for this refrigerant,base price has actually gone up $32/KG overnight.
So our actual buy cost is old cost plus $30 plus another $32/kg??????

Now lets try R404a,get last weeks cost price,add the correct amount of carbon tax,there is a difference of$26.50/kg.

I asked the supplier what is going on,they say business costs?

Maybe the market will sort it out by itself,as said no good going to the ACCC,waste of time.

More than likely the suppliers are playing cat & mouse between themselves,so it should get sorted in the next month or so,hopefully!

was installing a new meat case today at my local supermarket, the fridgey there who is a mate was telling me how much it had gone up, i didn't think to much of it until he pulled a bottle of R404A out which looked not much bigger than a 9kg gas bottle(it was 16kg), $6000. It has gone up from around $55 a kg to $377 a kg.
So if the other supermarket where we do a lot of work at for some reason dropped its gas, it would cost $40,000 to refill as apposed to a few days ago only costing $6000.
Big bickies

Will the carbon tax affect those naughty 'propane/butane/Bang' type gasses as much ?

Local rag estimated the co$t of a car re-gas in the order of plus $30.

Carbon ta hit alsorts of things. One guy has just paid 10% more to hire a skip bin because of the carbon tax.

Originally Posted by JohnF

Carbon ta hit alsorts of things. One guy has just paid 10% more to hire a skip bin because of the carbon tax.

Yes it is expected. Steel is used to make skip bins ergo carbon dioxide is produced ergo the carbon tax applies.
Now some will say the skip is already built pre carbon tax. this true but businesses must keep cash flow positive so all new bins and repairs must be charged at an average post carbon tax rate.

Cheers

Eh??

Is Tony Abbott a refrigeration mechanic or supplier??

These stated price increases are from the blokes holding invoices.

The entire premise of Global Warming is propaganda and threats of the end of the world by increased temperature and rising sea levels....and the Government are labeling anyone challenging it a 'denier' or someone who is 'negative'???

Can't get much more negative that saying the world is doomed...

Matt.

Originally Posted by ramblingboy42

it is not a tax, nor is it a levy......
looks like the abbott propaganda machine is winning.....
dont challenge me on this, do your homework.....

Have you? julia called it a carbon tax on the abc several months ago, Q&A from memory
Abbott doesnt need a propaganda machine just let Julia and the ex brown greens make a compromised decision to shoot themselves in the foot and alienate more voters. They are becoming more like howard's govt every day: New tax yes, 457 visa workers to reduce pay yes , dirty file for opposition yes.
The only thing they have not done(YET) is resurect wonkchoices but from what ive heard/seen about fairspank Aust. it's not much better and worse than the state based systems.