Thread: carbon levy on refrigerants

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It's happened before
And this one killed 2 workers:
TT Talk - Contaminated Refrigerant Gases in Reefer Containers

Originally Posted by frantic

When the Label Lies: Counterfeit Refrigerant | The Refrigerant Authority Blog
http://new.unep.org/ozonaction/Porta...50712_Ppt.pptx


It's happened before
And this one killed 2 workers:
TT Talk - Contaminated Refrigerant Gases in Reefer Containers

Happened here as well,Heatcraft one of the major wholesalers in this industry had contaminated refrigerant in some imported drop in type refrigeration units.

Methyl chloride has also turned up mixed with other refrigerants at refrigerant recyclers here in Aus.After a lot of investigation it was never determined where it came from,although they suspect it was from refrigerant reclaimed from refrigeration systems on containers.

Thanks for that.
What I would really like to know is whats the penalty for importing a container filled with refrigerant that is labeled as something else that does not attract carbon tax?
As I said the govt stuffed it with smokes/ tobaccos where the profit was far more than the possible penalty with no jail time. They fixed it later.

Originally Posted by frantic

Thanks for that.
What I would really like to know is whats the penalty for importing a container filled with refrigerant that is labeled as something else that does not attract carbon tax?
As I said the govt stuffed it with smokes/ tobaccos where the profit was far more than the possible penalty with no jail time. They fixed it later.

Are you planning on bring in a load? Trying to work out profit margin after the fines eh?

No just wondering how customs would check. Its not like a container of pots or loos stuffed with tobacco that became common after they stopped growing it here.
Im fairly sure there is a few on the way already, just worried that the supplier will do a near enough is good enough and as its illegal import the one who will suffer will be the bloke on the end using it. Also that the wrong gas can hurt people that the penalty wont match the crime or be any sort of deterant.
Then again if its just a 50c fine for putting NOS stickers over R### stickers let's do a group buy! 20 T container x $100 profit per kg = $2million
That would cover a few mods to my defender.

Count me in

Almost worth re-gassing your car with LPG... the repairs (?) would cost le$$ than the price of C-tax inflated gas !

Hi All
I am in the refrigeration wholesale business and you are correct, everyone is being ripped at every level, it cost about $8k every 2 years in licences to import EACH type of refrigerant. I have a data sheet at work i will post tomorrow about the charges on each gas. I gave all this information to my local Australia Party campaign manager, he gave it to the federal member and Abbott has it as well, as soon as they tried to raise the issue in parliment, swann used his powers to shut down question time and stifle debate. combet said he would look into it and have the accc crack down but all they have done so far is go after one contractor who said all his prices on refrigerant have increased by $$$$ amount because of the carbon tax.(IMHO) they are only trying to protect thier own arses until everyone just accepts this. I have been told that if I put down a figure and it's not correct I can be fined up to 1.1m for misleading the public when these bastards do it on a daily basis and get paid to do it.
19/9/12 Found the document and attached it.