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    Washing Soda /Soda Ash where to buy?

    I want to try using electrolysis for rust removal.
    All the reading I have done they all say to use Washing Soda (Washing soda = Soda Ash = Sodium Carbonate) to make your alkaline solution, which you can buy in the grocery stores in the US. I can not find a similar product in Australia.

    I could use caustic soda but is much stronger chemical.

    Another option I have read is to bake Bicarb soda first to turn it into "soda ash". I would prefer to buy a "proven" product first to experiment with prior to making my own.
    Hence my question - Where can you buy Sodium Carbonate and what other name / product will it be called?

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    "Lectric Soda"

    Bexters is available at chemists, priceline and some supermarkets.
    Coles supermarkets usually stock it.

    Bexters - Lectric Soda Crystals

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    Soda Ash is available in small containers up tp 10kg tubs from most pool shops, poll supply shops and often larger feed / farm supply shops. Soda Ash, Pot Ash, Bi Carb Soda are all very similar products.
    Caustic Soda is a lot more dangerous to use in circumstances like this and will require additional PPE.
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    Did not think of pool shops.
    Molasses is something I would like to try aswell.
    Ron - once you bring the part out of the molasses and clean it - how quickly does surface rust begin to form afterwards?
    I have also read that molasses will eventually eat away the whole metal if left in for too long.

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    Molasses is good, my old has an old oil heater tank that he uses for his vintage car parts but yes if you forget about them, there wont be much left.
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    Been doing some research on the Lectric Crystals - they have sodium chloride in them which during the electrolysis process will produce chlorine gas - which I would like to avoid.

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    If you don't already know don't use caustic soda near aluminium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew D View Post
    If you don't already know don't use caustic soda near aluminium.

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    Reminds me of years ago my boss bought an aluminium dinghy for us to row out to the centre of the tailings dam at a gold mine in the NT to install lift colums in the decants. Tailings solution in gold mines contains cyanide which is in solution with raised pH to stop the generation of hydrogen cyanide gas. The pH can be raised either by addition of lime or, as in our case, caustic soda.

    The dinghy only lasted a few days.

    He left me to find a replacement - I bought a plastic one from a place in Darwin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crash View Post
    I want to try using electrolysis for rust removal.
    All the reading I have done they all say to use Washing Soda (Washing soda = Soda Ash = Sodium Carbonate) to make your alkaline solution, which you can buy in the grocery stores in the US. I can not find a similar product in Australia.

    I could use caustic soda but is much stronger chemical.

    Another option I have read is to bake Bicarb soda first to turn it into "soda ash". I would prefer to buy a "proven" product first to experiment with prior to making my own.
    Hence my question - Where can you buy Sodium Carbonate and what other name / product will it be called?
    Another source for soda ash would be any industrial lab or chemical supplier. It is a reagent commonly used in fire assaying in gold mines and in the goldrooms as a component in fluxes.

    Don't know who you've got over in Vic but here I'd go to a company like "Lab Supply" or "Sigma Chemicals". There's bound to be someone in Bendigo who will stock it.
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