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No, it was mainly behavior punishment, not lack of understanding by the pupil, we all respected our teacher, and would VERY RARELY talk back to one.
I still remember my teachers with affection, and see one at our High School reunions, he is in his 80's now, and still involved with church run education in Qld :)
My experience is that most kids are fine, but there are a few who just want to push the boundaries all the time. Mostly, I handle that with some well-chosen words delivered quietly, but firmly, a bit of humour and boundary-setting, but occasionally you just have to stand them up, preferably in front of the others, and make it clear that their behaviour is unacceptable and will not be tolerated. Once done, that's usually the end of it. Mind you, they're much more likely to accept it if they have seen you previously go out of your way to help them, and be reasonable to them. If you're always a tyrant over trivia, then discipline becomes much harder when there really is a problem.
Our school has a room which troublesome students can be sent to for supervision and they then have to go through activities set by the reporting teacher satisfactorily and fully before being allowed back into class. And the parents are called in to be told why there is a problem. Usually that is all that is needed, but there are occasional expulsions. Being a non-government school we can expel, but try very hard to avoid it.
From my school experiences. Holding hands - Suspend me thanks. But I would be happy to break his nose next time.
Cane - If it is resonable for the crime.
With holding food. ok or have them fed in small groups with no talking and a time limit to eat.
Isolation - some times I can see it would be required but needs to be carefully controlled.
Teachers don't have any real control left in Aus.
But then when I was at school if I believed I was in the right nothing you said or did would change my view and I did argue back and even got the cane for not changing my view (Still to this day believe I was right on that one).
Isn't it amazing what holding hands can mean in different cultures?
In Australia and so many 'advanced/developed' western cultures, it is interpreted as being 'gay' if two males hold each other's hand.
Here in Mozambique and, in much of Africa, you hold the hand of your friend and it means, that you are....friends.
Holding hands...a genuine and very human experience. How advanced are western cultures?
Far out you've all gone soft in the heads..
Bring on the Cane ;)
It's not a case of belting it in, but to see young kids today with what seems like no dicsapline or respect, I'm a firm believer in the cane. Most of my mates received the cane on several occasions, it did us no harm physically or mentally, ok, so we had a sore ass and were embarressed for a week or so, but it helped teach us respect for all around us, as well as the dicsapline to behave in a proper socially acceptable manner.Quote:
Originally Posted by schmierer LR at singleton
I don't believe any form of punishment will actually make anyone a more intelligent/brainier person.
I went to a grammar school which cost mum and dad an arm and a leg, and essentially I don't believe did anything "special" to make me better educated than a high school,, but I will say, most of us had respect and manners than my other mates that did high/tech schools.
Now if you did high school, and came out better than my mates, well done,, this is only an observation from me to my mates and other kids of my time/my area/my group.
It's the same in India. Was strange to see at first, but not being homophobic allowed me to see it for what it was. Which helped when a couple of the guys I worked with thought enough of me to want to hold my hand. :eek: a bit of a shock that was, but I did feel honored. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by BBC
i was just joking with the belting thing, there is no way it will come back in as we have moved way to far in the opposite direction.
But something drastic needs to be done.
I know it varies from place to place but here anyone can get a job and most don't care about school because they know they can get a well paying job anyway so why bother.
do you guys have any suggestion besides the cane, just out of interest that is
the holding hands thing...it wasnt meant to be gay or anything, if the combatants had both been girls, or one of each - the holding hands would not have been looked at twice. What should be questioned is the other childrens reactions to it, which were clearly a reflection of the general feeling of many people in that community and that they felt it was ok harangue other students for whatever reason
Lets bring this back! we'd have some form of control over students at school!Quote:
Originally Posted by UncleHo