Are these five school punishments unacceptable?

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Originally Posted by Tombie

I would like to point out...

Name calling is judgmental statements constitute harassment / verbal assault.

They (in our PC climate) are also unacceptable :)

Yet (me included) we are quite guilty of it... Hey Adam ;)

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Good point Tombie. Have I done bad? I feel like I was batting away the insults, rather than dishing them out... Perception is a bastard though, so I've probably stepped on someones toes!

Apologies all 'round! Now gimme a hug. :angel:

Cheers,

Adam

Wasn't aimed solely mate...

I am as guilty - just not this thread.

And so are others.

Whatever happend to the "Pecking order"?
As I understand it, every animal on the planet has it in one way or another.
This starts as a child, so you know where you stand in life. It builds respect disapline in all aspects of life.
It's a pretty shoddie affair when a kid tells grandpa to "F off".
And as for footballers, or any man for that matter if belting his girlfriend should ust be drawn and quartered. ;) That'll bring the creeps back into line quick smart ;)

Back in the old days, someone who behaved that way would have been locked up in the stocks in the middle of the village to be abused and pelted with eggs for as long as it took to get the message over that the behaviour was unacceptable. Those who didn't get the mesage would have been run out of the village and warned not to come back. Not that I'm recommending those forms of punishment, but its a fact that sometimes people just have to be made to understand their behaviour is unacceptable, and given the boot if they don't comply, to protect society as a whole.

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Originally Posted by UncleHo

Ooh! I must be old, at primary school (Qld) if you played up slightly it was anything from 100 written lines to 500,and if it was a bad offence it was the cane,from Yr4 up Yr8,2-4-or 6, and at highschool,it was the cane or suspension,I can only remember one student being expelled,(he brought a .22 pistol to school) we went shooting in the local water filled quarrie at lunch time :D locals heard the shooting and called the Plods :( result was his expulsion,and 6 cuts(strokes) of the cane each morning for a week :twisted:

NB. all caning teachers were licensed to do so.

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we got the cuts for going down to the river for a swim at lunch time :Rolling::Rolling:

Back in the olden days people thought lobotomy was a cure for stuttering, the earth was the centre of the universe and the sun was a god riding a chariot across the sky.

They were wrong. Go figure.

You would think expelling a student for rape would be an acceptable school punishment...


Apparently not...

Headmaster won't expel boy charged with rape

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Originally Posted by akelly

That bit I do not agree with.It has been proven that " politically correctness" which your chain of thoughts come under,has failed in every aspect.I,have just seen from a recently immigrated family from England what was issued to their son by way of a card on his rights under everyone, teachers and parents included and it is no wonder,in my mind and his parents too,why those riots of recent times happened and why they consider the UK is down the gurgler.
A good whack never hurt me and if deserving should still be given if it is justified.

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So a footballer whose girlfriend wont listen is OK to give her a 'good whack' then, is he?

People that use violence against kids are weak, stupid and offensive in every way.[/QUOTE]
That's your way of thinking not mine,thank god we live in Australia where we have free speech don't you think? I take it you had the perfect parents who at no time yelled at you nor raised a hand ,you also had the perfect teachers who at no time did the same.IMHO It all started with the movie " The blackboard Jungle" in the 1950's ,and " Please Sir" in the 1960's now look where it has us.I'm pleased my parenting days are over and that I'm not a teacher.How do we get our world back?You appear to be the expert,tell us especially, me I only raised four boys my way which was the old way.They went to private school and were disciplined when they stepped out of line with a good thump ,they told me, and ,guess what, they all turned out great.
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with num 5 it does not say how long the kid is in the slammer for it may just be for an hour or two i think a kid who thinks he can do what ever he likes to who ever he wants a short stint inside of a jali to give him/her the taste of life is going to be like if him/her carry on with what they are doing . i have been on a night tour at the fremantle jail and at one point a jail door is slamed shut and it made everyone jump i think would do a lot of good to someone thinking he/she does not have to abide by the rules

Adam, it is patently obvious that you are steadfast in your beliefs (they are just that as opposed to facts) and have no problem introducing straw man arguments whenever it gets a little hard for you. What you fail to grasp is something that you brought up yourself, that is that all people are different. There is no 'one size fits all' approach but a handful of options that are brought to bear as appropriate.

Know that you cannot reason with everyone, be they a child, teen or adult. There are those who do not possess the ability to reason for any number of reasons.

Some people can be reasoned with and a solution found with little trouble.

Everyone falls somewhere in between this.