Thread: Are these five school punishments unacceptable?

Originally Posted by akelly

Do any of the proponents of 'smacking' want to answer my repeated question: Would you 'smack' an adult to change their behaviour?

Why do I answer these?! I'm sure to get scorned...........

Yes!!!!

The lad was smacked probably 5-10 times over his childhood. Mostly negotiation was used and smacks if it didn't.

Age 16 he started going off the rails.
Groundings, removal of privileges etc was done but he got worse.

Was 'using' girls and getting into lots of trouble. Would mouth off and talk back.
Even raised a fist at his Mum (not a wise choice).

After over 2 years of problems he was running the gauntlet of being kicked out.

I sat him down and explained actions and consequences. I may as well have spoken to the stove...

He mouthed back and was firmly told he was now leaving.

His response - muscle up and swing...

Result: His (now 18yr old) jaw and nose healed in 4-6 weeks and he is now a much more placid and pleasant individual.....

And gets in no trouble...

Some adults are like IBM computers - occasionally the voice interface fails and one has to punch the info in!

Originally Posted by bee utey

OK I'll weigh in here. When a child is young, reasoning does not work well. Once you have repeatedly warned them of consequences to which their reply is wilful misbehaviour, then a slap is appropriate. It's the shock value, hey they really mean it. Once the child is old/reasonable enough it is completely useless to smack them, I agree. But against say a 3 year old, it is the weapon of last resort and does them no harm. You would only have to do it a few times for them to get the message. I don't know when was the last time I smacked our now 28 year old, but he certainly hasn't become a violent offender from a few well timed smacks.

However if you lose your cool and wallop the living daylights out of a child, all bets are off. You need help.

i have to agree with you. kids dont have the reasoning skills to understand.
and its not just about wilful misbehaviour.

whats works better with a kid who cant reason who just tried to run onto the road. talking to the kid or a smack?

ever watched ncis? gibbs smacking someone on the back of the head. they sure learn quick.

Originally Posted by akelly

You either hit someone or you don't. You can church it up with sugary sounding names like 'smack', but it doesn't change the fact: if you are striking someone with your hand (or an object), it's physical and it's violent.

Do any of the proponents of 'smacking' want to answer my repeated question: Would you 'smack' an adult to change their behaviour?

Like Tombie, I'll bite.

My mum, about 60-65, 4'9-10" maybe,, me, 40ish at the time, almost 6'.

I swore infront of, at mum one day whilst having a rather heated debate over something.
She wound up and slapped my face for that

I deserved what I got, and never did it again. My love for mum never wained (S?) at any time ever. But I have more respect for her than any other person on this planet.
Sometimes, even adults need reminding of their place in society.

So your now going to try and tell me she's a violent woman ??

It's funny how some always equate discipline with violence.

Originally Posted by UncleHo

NB. all caning teachers were licensed to do so.

Licensed! Ha! Imagine the test.!

The fact is these so-called teachers were sadistic mongrels who could only stand tall in their own pretend little world of intimidation, bullying and violence....but perhaps my experience was different to some!

Just goes to show you how disproportionate violence directed against a child (under 10) can leave permanent yet invisible scars......even 40 years later.

I spit on the memory of how I was treated by these scum!

Originally Posted by Marshall

You would think expelling a student for rape would be an acceptable school punishment...


Apparently not...

Headmaster won't expel boy charged with rape

Been charged but as yet has not been found guilty if he is then yes expell him he deserves it He has been suspended what else can they do?

Originally Posted by akelly

You either hit someone or you don't. You can church it up with sugary sounding names like 'smack', but it doesn't change the fact: if you are striking someone with your hand (or an object), it's physical and it's violent.

Do any of the proponents of 'smacking' want to answer my repeated question: Would you 'smack' an adult to change their behaviour?

Just to answer you yes in my line of work I get to "smack" a few adults and it usally changes their behaviour sometimes for the worse but then i get some help from my other "workers"
It is a last resort after trying to get them to behave in a manner acceptable to other patrons but some people only understand the I can hit harder than you equation

smacking will soon be illegal, look at the way we and the world are heading. everyone threatens to sue. people can use the media to research and exploit actions.

I have had 2 people threaten to sue unfortunatly for them both incidents were on video with audio so their threat to kill me was recorded and I only hit them once, the police offered me the choice of charging them