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Thread: The standard of P-plate drivers getting worse?

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    Tombie Guest
    Oh how nice it is to forget what it was like to be young once

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    sheerluck Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    Oh how nice it is to forget what it was like to be young once
    Tombie, being young is not generally seen as an excuse for being a complete ***** behind the wheel. You can be young, AND not wipe other people off the road.

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    Treads Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Chops View Post
    Hmmm,, na,, still only took just a tad under 3 1/2 hours to get from SE Melb to Wodonga. Having done the trip myself God only knows how many times, I know she's sped, and had no breaks on the way.
    I can only imagine how one might feel when it all comes crashing down in a heap, and I dread it.
    She's very lucky that she didn't meet me or one of my colleagues - We're out on the Hume all the time

    Quote Originally Posted by ATH View Post
    We live not far from WAs Police Academy and only last week we saw a cops car with a P plate in the front window. Nothing in the rear though.
    What's the betting this recruits first option after they graduate will be traffic duties, just like 90% of all the new recruits.
    I spent 10 years working next door to this place and I can truthfully say the standard of driving from supposedly trained police drivers and recruits is woeful.
    I could pick your poor reasoning and generalisations to bits; but I couldn't really be bothered....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treads View Post
    She's very lucky that she didn't meet me or one of my colleagues - We're out on the Hume all the time
    I wish,, maybe she may learn something,, I love her to bits, but sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind.
    She says she doesn't speed, but my Garman says differently. I know none of my cars go that quick

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    Treads Guest
    We regularly pick up people doing some big speeds here. Almost everyday someone gets done at 150km/h+

    A lot are P-platers....

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    I lost a friend today in a car accident. He was killed instantly when an "unaccompanied learner" traveling at 130kph hit the drivers side of his car at head height. Yep the offender was airborne through the intersection. Now my mate is gone and the offender walked away. So i would quite happily like to generalize here and say that all drivers up until 15 or more years of driving experience are gained,are absolute idiots and need to be punished harsher than ever if they will not learn to obey the rules.

    End of rant. Sorry. Venting.

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    Yes most young drivers are silly and think they are invincible. So did I when I was young.
    Roads were quieter back then and yes it taught me to drive. It also made me realise the consequences of making that big mistake.
    Modern cars are safer but they don't give you the feedback and once you drive beyond the drivers aids it's to late.

    Firefox sorry to hear about your loss.

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    It'sNotWorthComplaining! Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by Treads View Post
    We regularly pick up people doing some big speeds here. Almost everyday someone gets done at 150km/h+

    A lot are P-platers....
    they're usually not aware of their surroundings until the split second before impact into a tree or something, but then of course it's too late for them.
    they don't drive like that when doing their driving test.
    maybe a licence should be a 2 stage thing, you have to do a retest after 12 months. Or make drivers pay a few thousand dollar bond which is returned after a period of safe driving. Stupidity is a skill many easily gained.
    Unfortunately, there are always people that have the job of scraping the remains out of cars or off trees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by It'sNotWorthComplaining! View Post
    maybe a licence should be a 2 stage thing, you have to do a retest after 12 months.
    I thought they were a two stage thing. Green 'P'- Red 'P'.

    Maybe a test every 12 months, for everybody. My work requires me to do a bike refresher course every two years to try to break bad habits and stop overconfidence. A lot of the course we do is about attitude, like blaming others when you could have avoided the whole situation. On a bike it doesn't matter whose fault it is if you are hurt, you are still hurt.

    Jeff


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    I've spent a lot of time on the roads across this country, be they city or country and by motorbike, car/4wd and truck. I've also done defensive driver courses and advanced skills courses and a couple of things stick in my mind.

    1. You cannot rely on the road rules to keep you safe. The reason for this is that people interpret the rules differently or are unaware of rule changes.

    2. The vast majority of collisions are nose to tails. They reckon that a 50% reduction in the total collision rate would happen if people maintained an appropriate gap and looked further up the road.

    One thing I have found through riding and driving a truck is that you do tend to plan ahead as a matter of course and you can predict what other road users are going to do because you are looking ahead, evaluating what they are doing and what options they have. I constantly surprise my wife with my predictions as I know what they are going to do before they do, why? Because they don't plan, they react.

    The react instead of plan mentality is evident throughout society as is the teaching to pass the test, rather than learn how to do something in practice.

    I will be teaching my children how to drive and will be instilling in them good habits and attitudes. Someone else can have their car abused as they attempt to teach them how to operate a car, or hell, I might do what I did with my wife and get a cheap car to teach them that as well.

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