4X4 Driving and inclines.

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Originally Posted by B92 8NW

A few times I've attempted backing up a known 30 degree incline in high range reverse with my 300 auto and it won't climb. Foot to floor, full stall revs about 2500rpm without traction loss. I have the feeling the torque converter is starting to rotate the stator against the sprag with age and wear.

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2500RPM if all is normal isnt too bad on a tdi auto for a stall check.

Thats why you have low range.

you keep doing that and you ARE going to flip your A pack clutch sprags burn your oil AND destroy the TC...

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If he is anything like the other Landlooser owners I know he will be absolutely right because he knows everything, he owns a toymota.
You will have to prove him wrong and then tell him he used the toymota offroad ability coefficient, he should expand his horizons and consider there are other vehicles out there and he should recalculate using a Land Rover offroad ability coefficient. :D

There's an old saying from surfing that "all big waves are measured in increments of bull****", and I dare say that off road, hills use the same standard.

He's a good bloke, a bit eccentric but he's a hoot.
Even used to own a landrover.
My only issue is when my girlfriend asked him specifically about the Discovery model he said he thought they were "Nothing special"
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Hi All

Disco Muppet I think that you should plan a nice quiet drive offroad somewhere to take the old bloke for a spin :):D. I would ask him for some tips on how to drive the track. :):D

I am sure that a generous and nice bloke like yourself could find a nice drive that wouldn't tax the discovery too hard but would leave him wondering what he would have to do to his toyota to go where you just went.

Regards Mark

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Originally Posted by Disco Muppet

specifically about the Discovery model he said he thought they were "Nothing special"
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Its ok. I concur

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Originally Posted by Disco Muppet

............................he thought they were "Nothing special"
:mad::mad::mad:

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Just agree with him .................................... and point out that Land Rovers are designed and built for a purpose and don't need any 'special' mods or accessories to achieve their design purpose.
As standard they can achieve what other specially modified brands can only try to emulate. :D :D

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Originally Posted by Xtreme

Just agree with him .................................... and point out that Land Rovers are designed and built for a purpose and don't need any 'special' mods or accessories to achieve their design purpose.
As standard they can achieve what other specially modified brands can only try to emulate. :D :D

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I thought it was funny when I took the Freelander 2 up Blue Rag and met a bunch of people watching me go up the final few inclines. They were all in Jap cars that I could have almost driven under. The Freelander looked puny bog standard bar the tyres parked beside them. I think that I may have well and truly shattered their sense of accomplishment. :D

And then there are those who get it wrong.......

http://youtu.be/VWNAzIC41gk

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Originally Posted by Disco Muppet

Thanks for this guys, I'm going to see her today so I shall ask him to show me the money.
Or maths. :D

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I'm curious to see the mathematics behind this. Even using very conservative coefficients of friction, I can't come up with the numbers that he's coming up with...