Thread: Any Decent Recruitment Companies out there?

Originally Posted by isuzurover

Why not WA? Highest employment in AU at the moment.

Hello Isuzurover,

Thank you for your suggestion. From my looking at the cost of rental properties on various real estate websites lately in Perth; and considering the distance to the more populous areas of Australia .... in my ignorance I have put it into the too dear and too far basket. Along with Tasmania and Darwin.

I did apply for jobs in both Perth and Darwin then I did some sums and things just did not work out in my favour. Okay nor have I ever been to Perth Darwin or Hobart so all I have to go off is current market prices and the cost of relocating there. The maths just not work out yet.

There is an interesting job in Tasmania however it is only for a 6 month contract and the thread about "moving to Tasmania" did not actually inspire me about the prospect of getting a follow on contract or permanency.

Yep bad attitude and damn ignorant too.

Kind Regards
Lionel

Originally Posted by Lionelgee

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Yep bad attitude and damn ignorant too.


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Given your situation I would be applying for every job going. You can always decide later if you want to take it [or negotiate for better pay and conditions if they really want you]. It is also much easier to get a job once you already have one.

Sorry but to me it sounds like you are being too fussy and not flexible enough given the current market and economy.

Hello All,

Just to say that they are not all tarred with the same brush - I did find a really excellent recruitment person who set up their own company. They went above and beyond the call of duty too. Trouble is over Christmas New Year period they changed their email address.

At the time I did not print off the advertisement which had their mobile number. The only reference to that number on my mobile is their return calls which come up as "unknown number". So I will try their LinkedIn details and Skype - Cross fingers.

Back to IsuzuRover's message - I also have no relatives or friends located in Western Australia or the Northern Territory. So that is a limiting factor too .

Kind Regards
Lionel

Originally Posted by isuzurover

Given your situation I would be applying for every job going. You can always decide later if you want to take it [or negotiate for better pay and conditions if they really want you]. It is also much easier to get a job once you already have one.

Sorry but to me it sounds like you are being too fussy and not flexible enough given the current market and economy.

Hello IsuzuRover,

It was not for my eyes I would be working back in the mines where I worked as a teenager and I would go anywhere FIFO. I am now medically limited to a dust free environment where nothing can get into my eyes. Nor would I have left my trade and be in the situation that I find myself in now. I do like being able to see - you might call this fussy.

Kind Regards
Lionel

Just a thought, have you tried the old fashioned, much denigrated method of ringing or visiting those you know?

I have worked with a few PhD grads and 2 of the 4 got their first positions through the organisations they carried out their research with. The third through someone in a rival organisation who knew of his work.
The fourth did his PhD through an american uni where masters credits helped so he stayed on in the US as a freelance practitioner.

Worth a try.

Ralph

Originally Posted by Ralph1Malph

Just a thought, have you tried the old fashioned, much denigrated method of ringing or visiting those you know?

I have worked with a few PhD grads and 2 of the 4 got their first positions through the organisations they carried out their research with. The third through someone in a rival organisation who knew of his work.
The fourth did his PhD through an american uni where masters credits helped so he stayed on in the US as a freelance practitioner.

Worth a try.

Ralph

G'day Ralph,

Thank you for suggestion Ralph.

Jeeze I am going to sound like a real naysayer ... my research was based off individuals living in rural areas of Queensland who have a diagnosis of Asperger's Syndrome. I interviewed 25 people with a diagnosis and then 25 people who were the parents, siblings or partners. The research was not collaborative with any other organisation; just me on my Pat Malone.

My title used to be Asperger's Syndrome: An enabling model for Individuals living in regional communities. However after a long ongoing discussion with my supervisors it was suggested to change the title because it led people to believe that my results were not transferable to metropolitan areas. I am a kid from the bush so it was hard to give the title up. It looks like the new title will be something like The representations of Self Determination in daily life for individuals with Asperger’s Syndrome. Pretty snappy title, aye!

Kind Regards
Lionel

Pm sent

Ralph

A couple of points:

Never forget that modern recruitment firms have their genesis in the slave markets of Rome over 2500 yrs ago... There were entrepreneurs who marketed those captured in the innumerable wars with the Greeks and others...men, women and children alike. You want a tutor for your kids...buy a Greek because they were generally well educated etc.... selling bodies for lira / drachma / AUD / GBP / USD / FF / DM / Rupees etc etc nothing much has changed, including the "ethics"...

That being said, they rely on "placement" to bring in the $$$, so at 10-15% of annual package, they need to recruit successfully at least 15 people pa for every person in the firm... so time is money and sadly many of them with young and inexperienced staff just think about the $$$$$.

Before sending in a résumé, have a look at the website of the RCSA (RCSA Home) esp the code of conduct. Then when you are about to send in your résumé , call the agency first and ask if they are members. Tell them you believe you are well qualified for the role and ask them how your résume' will be assessed should you choose to send it to them and if you are unsuccessful would they be prepared to explain why?

If they resist, politely explain that you thought they were a professional organisation, but their attitude is inconsistent with the RCSA code of conduct and you'll look elsewhere...thank you!

There are terrabytes of data containing résumés in their files which should be destroyed. In the days of identity theft etc I'd be extremely careful whom Ï dealt with...

Thoughts: There are literally hundreds of people in well paid (high 6 figures) high stress jobs presently undertaking MBA degrees part time. Many of these MBA courses have a "capstone" project which the students complete in groups of 3 or 4 (called a syndicate). Said projects usually require extensive literature searches.

I know of several people who earn more than beer money undertaking the lit. searches for them. A solid week's work ---say 35 hrs... incl photocopying and an abstract of each paper @$30/hr ...not a bad earner... For 35 hrs they might do searches for a couple of syndicates on different projects.

Best thing to do is to approach the Business Schools directly ...AGSM , Melb business School , UQ etc probably best to start with...and offer your services.

With your PhD... listen to your supervisor.. they've "been there" after all and have their ticket. Their academic future is judged on their publicatioon rate and the success of their research students... with all respect, you can't be a prima donna...you gotta have a degree of flexibility

My somewhat cynical description of recruitment agencies is born of long experience in retaining them to assist with rapid recuitment programs for big projects... There are very few, relatively, whom I would feed. That being said, if you find one which is professional and lives up to commitments, maintain good relations...they're worth cultivating!