Thread: Oh What A Feeling ........................

Hmmmm, not getting into the debate over looks etc....each to their own and I respect the fact that opinions and desires are different, as are vehicle use requirements.

But

I know they claim their bars are airbag compliant, but that Toyota has twin side tubes, and they have to effect the ability of the crush zones to absorb impact at their designed perameters.imo.
I know appearances can be deceiving also as those bars are alloy and apparently only weigh the same as an arb bar, so why should that bar be able to drive thru numerous animal strikes any more than the arb bar?......airbag compliant crush cans can only take so much impact before deforming.
The mass of the object being hit can only be so much before airbag deployment in any case.
If that bar changes that, then the airbag system can't work as its designed and save your life in the event of a collision.
I guess the truth is that the looks of the bar are misleading and in reality are no better than the arb style bars as the mounts are the "weak" point after all.
If it looks stronger, it must be, right?.... The danger being that those people who then drive like they are then invincible.

I've driven all over oz, hundreds of thousands of ks as an escort for heavy trucks etc and learnt to drive to the conditions. Had many a close call, but never hit anything hard enough to damage my old tube bar, let alone my arb bar....
Then one night a few months ago before I put my arb bar on my disco, I went out to help my son and a roo did the unexpected and turned into me. Popped an indicator, that's all. This was in the middle of a Perth suburb, not in the country.
Reason it only popped the indicator?.... I was driving to the conditions, had good lights and saw him, slowed down and was only doing 20ks at impact....he hopped away, I put the light back.

Big bars like that, false sense of security, not driving to the conditions because of that, sooner or later it's gunna cost you.....the bar may not deform, but crush cans will, or it's NOT srs compatible regardless of the manufacturers claim, and you are going to be hurt.

I personally would like to see the engineers report on that bar on the landcruiser to show its compliance for airbags.....mean looking Mutha though

Cheers all.
Kev

That bull bar is offensive because it looks as though it has been designed to intimidate. That LC has been turned into a mean looking weapon. The driver can sit smug and feel safer - but no one likes a smug face weapon wielder.

I only hope the driver of that car is a safe, mature, responsible driver who frequently hits roadkill that is completely unavoidable to even the most prudent of drivers.

If I was a cynic I would say he got it because it looks cool

It's a bit like using a jackhammer to drive in a pin through fabric. You can do it but why?

Originally Posted by rick130

Unfenced grazing country is all through the state.

I reckon I averaged at least one decent roo strike a month living in the hills east of here, plenty more smaller nudges and was dodging plenty more.
Driving home of a night required not exceeding 50km/h for the last 15km, and you would still hit them, or more correctly they would run into me.

Living much closer to town now (all of 1000 people) so hardly ever have to dodge one, it's amazing what a difference 25km makes but it shows that there's high density pockets of animals all over the place.

Yep they do like to run into you. some times they hit the side of the car. No protection there.

Originally Posted by manic

That bull bar is offensive because it looks as though it has been designed to intimidate. That LC has been turned into a mean looking weapon. The driver can sit smug and feel safer - but no one likes a smug face weapon wielder.

I only hope the driver of that car is a safe, mature, responsible driver who frequently hits roadkill that is completely unavoidable to even the most prudent of drivers.

If I was a cynic I would say he got it because it looks cool

No cynics on this forum.....

Originally Posted by roverrescue

Sparks,
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Bugger spotlights, I now have a light bar that gives great light in that first 15m in front of the vehicle so you see em coming and can be ready for the hit. Setups with big spotties and a blind spot either side of the vehicle in that first 15-20m now annoy me!


S

+1 agreed

Originally Posted by PAT303

Niether me or my partner have ever had issue's with animals on the road,in 15 years of rural outback living we have replaced one mirror and one blinker,I don't know how you blokes can consistantly hit things,our last three LR's haven't had any frontal protection nor did our VW that Tracey drove for 10 years.If I needed a bar like that POS on my vehicle I'd reconsider my driving style. Pat

Pat, Pat, Pat, just 'cause you and yours haven't hit anything where you live doesn't mean it's the same for everyone else.

As I mentioned above I used to average one strike a month, regardless of how fast, slow or in between I drove, the buggers were that thick in the hills where we lived.

When there's scrub/forest right up to the shoulder of the road, it doesn't matter how bloody good your spotties are or how slow you're driving when one or a mob comes out at speed.
Often, five go screaming across the road in front of you and you think "great, they're all gone" and then the next thing 'whack', straight into the door as he/she tries to get to where their mates are.
Every door is dinged on the Deefer and the Patrol's doors are too from a roo running into them, the FIL's old Citroen copped it in the top of the A pillar a week after he bought it when a big roo jumped from the top of a small cutting down onto the car.
How would you dodge that one when he's bloody well above you ?

I'm now in a slightly more open valley, we've been here six years and I've had zero roo strikes in that time, just a change of address of 25km by road (about 15km as the crow meanders) and I'm not out and about in the hills at dusk or night anymore.
We get the odd roo or five in the paddock here, but we're not counting fifty plus in in front of the house as at the old place.

Why do these threads always seem to come down to "it's never happened to me so, you're either..."
a) all full of ****
b)idiots
c)hopeless
d)all of the above ?

Originally Posted by Sparksdisco

It's a bit like using a jackhammer to drive in a pin through fabric. You can do it but why?

Because the you tube video would rate its butt off.

I hit a roo that did 7K worth of damage to the D2 WITH bar 20min from home in suburban Sydney.