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    Quote Originally Posted by SLOWBOAT View Post
    Rode down 35km to a local Kwaka dealer to buy a significant part and was told $1100 and place a 50% deposit and it will be in store in 11 weeks due to coming from Japan. Thinking everyone is dumb but I had already priced it from USA $560 delivered to my door, I said no chance mate as I now have to ride home then ride back again for double the price.
    Part arrived on my door step 5 days later and I didn't have to go anywhere.
    If I was him I would have done what I did and couriered it express to my door with maybe $100 mark up and I would have accepted it but greed and smugness seems to be the normal.
    They bitch and winge about us not purchasing from them but when confronted about the mark ups and no courier service they then try to put the blame on us and state we won't have a dealer soon if YOU / US keep doing this to them.
    They just don't get it. I suppose they are bike people not business people but they need to wake up and offer the same service. Employ some young business person who can set it up for them and train them in this area.
    so there is $44 he gets, then he has to minus wages, time, insurances rent etc etc etc

    a sale for the sake of a sale ain't always worth the effort

    sounds like you don't get it...

    and we know successive australian governments don't get it

    these guys have to operate with in certain rules

    most of which you don't

    but one day it is all going to come back and bite everyone unfortunately.

    sooner rather than later, i suspect.
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    G'day sheerluck

    Yeah! the +40% is not to bad, but the + 200% grits a bit

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    Quote Originally Posted by incisor View Post
    so there is $44 he gets, then he has to minus wages, time, insurances rent etc etc etc

    a sale for the sake of a sale ain't always worth the effort

    sounds like you don't get it...

    and we know successive australian governments don't get it

    these guys have to operate with in certain rules

    most of which you don't

    but one day it is all going to come back and bite everyone unfortunately.

    sooner rather than later, i suspect.
    It's starting in the building industry, Asian labour. Teams of plastered, tilers, and painters. They arrive here, form companies and under cut labour by significant amounts. They often have to rectify their work several times but doesn't seem to bother them. I assume many live in the one house, not like the typical white nuclear family we all are.
    The builder I work for has built up his business over a couple decades doing high quality, high service work and charges for it. But it's getting harder because even the wealthy want more and more and struggle to pay for it all, so Asian labour is the answer.

    It will be real fun when it hits the mines.
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    i shop overseas when i get a chance and its mainly for hobbies or for things that i can wait for.......

    in relation to cars its dfficult for us to get by without both running therefore i have no option but to pop down to the local shop and pay the labelled price. i guess i am paying for convienance, i can hardly be ****ed off at the business, after all its their business i'm the customer. when competition dies off its only going to get tougher getting things on the day or next day

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    My 'fun' car is a 65 Mustang, so I buy most parts direct from the states as few places will stock them here. I do however visit the local Chepa Auto Spares shop for all generic bits and pieces. Generally they will have any gasket or seal I need in stock, and at one stage I took my tailshaft in and they measures it up and supplied me with the correct uni's that I needed. They are always cheaper than the other generic parts places as well so I'm quite happy to support them due to good prices and great service. At least there are a few businesses that get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheerluck View Post
    I do find it curious that some retailers only want high margin sales, and couldn't care about, or refuse to take reduced or low margin sales.
    make too many low margin sales (and it doesnt take many) and your out the door because you cant pay your over heads

    as callous as it sounds, people who buy on price only, rarely show loyalty and rarely continue to support those that have supported them.

    in days gone by people had a more realistic perception of what was a good deal. now it is all about the lowest price possible with no consideration for what it takes to run a business in australia or keeping other australians employed.

    there are still quite a few that will pay for service and also understand the principles of loyalty etc but as each year passes the number drops.

    who the **** is going to pay for all these people that cant get paying work because all the manufacturing jobs have gone to one hung lows factory in the middle of a polluted slum in china? or mahatma coats child labour driven enterprise in the back alleys of calcutta?

    or because all the retail jobs have now gone because everyone is buying off the net and no one employs sales people to sell the stuff on a shop floor or employs storeman to load and unload goods etc etc etc?

    you are flat out getting a job picking strawberries round here cause 10 mini bus loads of vietnamese 457 workers lob out of their bush camp every morning at the crack of dawn to do the job.

    we going to let all these now unemployed australians all starve to death?

    more square miles of hopeless suburbs like the western suburbs of sydney where half the population gets by selling the other half drugs?

    great australian dream gone in a puff of self obsessed greed.

    before howard converted middle class australians into little capitalists there was a notion that things were done for the common good... now we have the american dream where the top 10% manipulate the bottom 90% and the multi nationals and their pricing policies

    and i cant see for the life of me how the hell it is going to get turned around before the crash that is supposed to get here about 2031 when they predict capitalism will collapse.

    very very sad...

    i much preferred being 30 and not worrying about this sort of **** instead of getting old and worrying about my grand kids...

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    As mentioned before, it all boils down to customer service...

    I willingly pay the inflated Australian prices if you at the very least have a smiling friendly person to deal with. My local franchised 4x4 supplier is one of those people. The guy runs his business and treats his customer like you would friends.

    He introduces himself by first name, enquirers about yours and if you mind if he calls you by your first name. That to me is the first $300 sold!

    He always rounds prices down (not talking massive discounts) and always calls back with updates on back orders. These are the small things that makes customer return...

    I have spent quite a bit of money with him as he will install internet purchased items without blinking or moaning that you should have bought it from him. I know what labour cost and I don't begrudge him his rate for doing the work.

    His approach to business has created a massive customer base and his business is flourishing as a result. I'll keep supporting him and even pay the prices he's forced to charge because of rent, deliveries, salaries and all the other issues quoted as reasons for poor service by others.

    Cheers,

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    Its endless

    The final straw for me was seeing a plasma cutter on the net for $300 delivered (from china) and thinking that it was cheap enough to give a try.

    I went to the local welding shop and asked if he has a machine with the same specs.

    Same machine. Different colour. $1200 + GST.

    I might have paid double but not more than four times!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rfurzer View Post
    The final straw for me was seeing a plasma cutter on the net for $300 delivered (from china) and thinking that it was cheap enough to give a try.

    I went to the local welding shop and asked if he has a machine with the same specs.

    Same machine. Different colour. $1200 + GST.

    I might have paid double but not more than four times!
    and wont be approved for the power here

    the ones carried in the shops have to be approved..

    and that doesnt come cheap...
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    Quote Originally Posted by incisor View Post
    make too many low margin sales (and it doesnt take many) and your out the door because you cant pay your over heads

    as callous as it sounds, people who buy on price only, rarely show loyalty and rarely continue to support those that have supported them.

    in days gone by people had a more realistic perception of what was a good deal. now it is all about the lowest price possible with no consideration for what it takes to run a business in australia or keeping other australians employed..........
    I'm not disagreeing with you Inc, as I'm not talking solely about shifting items at a knock down price so that margins become so tight you end up a busy fool, and then out of business.

    I'm talking about those occasional customer that is attempting to show loyalty by giving a particular retailer the opportunity to retain their business by matching the price of a competitor. If they were solely price driven they would have gone to the competitor straight away.

    If the answer to the price question is "Nah mate, that's the price, like it or lump it" chances are loyalty has been lost or severely dented.

    Taking that sale (again, still assuming that it is a positive margin) and getting some cash in the till is surely going to pay more overhead than no sale and your cash tied up in the stock on the shelf?

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