Disposing of feral cats

its the CO carbon monoxide not the CO2 (carbon dioxide) in petrol exhaust fumes that puts a cat to "sleep" , its why people go to sleep in a car with a leaky exhaust, Carbon monoxide is insignificant in a diesel exhaust.
a modern petrol car still has plenty of CO to kill a cat

a lack of oxygen wont necessarily kill you, (and certainly wont kill a cat - what with 9 lives and all that ) heck I can breath in consecutive whole lungfuls of Helium, (albeit its an inert gas) to extol an oration of Donal Duck

what I dont get is all this about being "humane" in an attempt to kill a pest,
a viscious horrible pest at that,

Many more humans go thru a much more horrible death when left to languish in Nursing Homes for example, (or connected to life support.) Humane ... pigs arse !!

I'm with Jack Kavorchian on this one.

The only good cat is a dead one !

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Originally Posted by goingbush

its the CO carbon monoxide not the CO2 (carbon dioxide) in petrol exhaust fumes that puts a cat to "sleep" , its why people go to sleep in a car with a leaky exhaust, Carbon monoxide is insignificant in a diesel exhaust.
a modern petrol car still has plenty of CO to kill a cat

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No, it's the lack of oxygen (displaced with CO2). CO is pretty much non existant in the exhaust of a good petrol engine.
Diesels exhaust at idle is virtually all just warm air with very little oxygen consumed. That's why it doesn't kill anything.

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Originally Posted by goingbush

a lack of oxygen wont necessarily kill you, (and certainly wont kill a cat - what with 9 lives and all that ) heck I can breath in consecutive whole lungfuls of Helium, (albeit its an inert gas) to extol an oration of Donal Duck

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A lung full of air with insufficient oxygen will put any person or animal out instantly. If they don't get full oxygen within the next few minutes, it's death. This has been proven with industrial accidents over and over again.

Your helium party trick is not devoid of oxygen. Unfortunately, after reading your following comments.

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Originally Posted by goingbush

what I dont get is all this about being "humane" in an attempt to kill a pest,
a viscious horrible pest at that,

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A pest is anything in the wrong environment. What you are suggesting is the equivalent of finding yourself in the wrong part of town, being labelled a pest and beaten to death.

Where a much quicker and more suitable end would be a single bullet. Causing un-necessary painful death is often a sign of mental illness.

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Originally Posted by goingbush

I'm with Jack Kavorchian on this one.

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No you're not. Kavorkian's whole game is peaceful death without distress or pain.

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Originally Posted by goingbush

The only good cat is a dead one !

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I see, you're one of those.

IMO cats are worse than foxes if it is good enough to poison foxes then poison cats as well.
We need politicians with balls to introduce compulsory desexing or spaying domestic female cats.

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Originally Posted by Dougal

Your helium party trick is not devoid of oxygen. Unfortunately,......

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:lol2: :lol2: :Rolling:

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A pest is anything in the wrong environment. What you are suggesting is the equivalent of finding yourself in the wrong part of town, being labelled a pest and beaten to death.

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Unfortunatly (for cat lovers) I don't venture into King Street at Night, (not even during the day) if I did I most likely would be put to death,
.... hey thanks for the great idea, I'll head down that way just before my family shove me off to a nursing home.

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I see, you're one of those.

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:thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by goingbush

its the CO carbon monoxide not the CO2 (carbon dioxide) in petrol exhaust fumes that puts a cat to "sleep" , its why people go to sleep in a car with a leaky exhaust, Carbon monoxide is insignificant in a diesel exhaust.
a modern petrol car still has plenty of CO to kill a cat

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Yes actually I meant CO, not CO2 (post-nighshift brain syndrome). There is generally not considered to be sufficient CO in a modern petrol exhaust to cause lethal CO poisoning, at least in humans. Still see plenty of suicides with older vehicles but more often unsuccessful attempts with late models.

How about 2 probes connected to a high-energy ignition system? You could make up some insulated probes that could be inserted into a trap, touch both probes to kitty and I think an instantaneous discontinuation of life would occur. I do recall several deaths of people in the early days of high-energy ignition systems, if there's enough energy to kill a careless mechanic, it would surely take care of a pussycat.

Somehow I see this being relevant in this forum -( Says me sitting in my Land Rover) :p

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Originally Posted by goingbush

what I dont get is all this about being "humane" in an attempt to kill a pest,
a viscious horrible pest at that,

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A cat is a cat. It does cat things without much choice. You have a choice whether to be vicious and horrible. By being inhumane to them you are actually choosing to be exactly how you think they are. What's worse?

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Originally Posted by mikehzz

A cat is a cat. It does cat things without much choice. You have a choice whether to be vicious and horrible. By being inhumane to them you are actually choosing to be exactly how you think they are. What's worse?

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Good God, do you really believe that? You have never worked in the bush then, I think the problem is, with all respect, people with that attitude have never had to live with the problem. Until they have, they should stick to what's warm & fuzzy, & leave the essential work to those who have the balls to do what is right. Bob

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Originally Posted by bob10

Good God, do you really believe that? You have never worked in the bush then, I think the problem is, with all respect, people with that attitude have never had to live with the problem. Until they have, they should stick to what's warm & fuzzy, & leave the essential work to those who have the balls to do what is right. Bob

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Thats a crock of **** Bob no one is saying that the feral population shouldn't be taken out I for one advocate it...but explain why it should be done in an inhumane way? we can give you reasons why it should be done humanely so I'm interested to hear why you think it shouldn't be.

I also find it quite interesting that you think the bush is the only place with a huge feral cat problem, you need to come and visit some suburbs in inner sydney I think you will be shocked. I think you will find the issues are just as bad as the bush and I would dare say a bigger problem because out in the bush its survival of the fittest and the cats actually have to hunt for their meals or they will starve to death especially if they get injured, its not like in the city where the cats have little old ladies feeding them whiskers cat food or they hang out behind fast food shops. I removed 70 feral cats in one month when I was in a particular Sydney area.

so please do us a favour stop making out that we dont understand just because we dont live in the bush and we advocate a painless and quick death.