Fitness Equipment/gym - which one?

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Originally Posted by 1976_michelle

just the time factor; ........Guess Ill cut out the bread again (did atkins years ago with some success) but hate, hate hate rabbit food. Thought I could at least allow for two slices a day without being totally evil... and the simple math alone of calories out must exceed calories in, doesnt work for all either ( for months I maintained routine of exerting twice the amount of calories I consumed, but no change)
Thanks for your thoughts

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Yes, you are quite correct in assuming 'calories in vs calories out ' has nothing to do with weight (fat) gain or loss.
I've lost a heap of fat by doing 'no' exercise, - what I do at the gym is for fitness and mental/emotional balance.

Two books worth reading, one is Dr Ron Rosedale and his diet, the easier to read & digest.... is Gary Taubes and 'Why we get fat and what to do about it'
If you want a taste of his ideas, most of the info is available on youtube, such as here:-
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l59YyXpCT1M]Why We Get Fat -- with Gary Taubes - YouTube[/ame]

James in Gosnells,
Reformed Fat lump.
(6 slices of bread November to Feb, none since...)

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Originally Posted by Gary S11

There's your problem, your " breeding deep" when you should be exercising :-)

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:bat: :D

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Originally Posted by clubagreenie

The "other half" packed off to a fitness/weight loss camp for a month earlier this year. I started eating the same way and cooking as per their meal plans. There's no real limitations on what you're eating, excepting nil white products (rice/bread/flour etc) just go back to whole grain breads and cereals, minimise added sugars etc. Basically just be sensible. I didn't do any of the exercise stuff and in that first month I lost 13kg and while I fluctuate a kg or 2 since I've been able to maintain it.

I sat in on the last week of the camp and I found the best exercise was the circuits and of those the best workouts came from either a circuit based on boxing (punching & kicking) or as said the rower on a gym based circuit. It works a heap of muscle groups and also has cardio effects as well.

Which ever way you go I'd try a trial at the gym forst to see what works for you before coughing up for and of your own gear.

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Clean eating and circuit/interval training, you're on the money mate!

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Originally Posted by Chucaro

If you have a link were I can learn more about it I would appreciate if you can post it.
I am a bit confused about this going by my MHBR and how my dody respond in the rower.
Mayo Clinic have this article:

Gauging intensity using your heart rate

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Hey Chucaro,
Sorry, I don't have web links to hand.
I'd have to consult my text books which are at my business.

Are you interested in methods of determining heart rates that will provide a training effect?

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Originally Posted by elshano

Clean eating and circuit/interval training, you're on the money mate!

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Good old Fartlek

teehee

Comfortably the greatest name in ex phys!

I personally get along better with Tabata-san :)

Yes, the one side effect has been the installation of an on site methane production unit.

But your own is never as bad as someone else's.

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Originally Posted by 1976_michelle

Just been browsing a few home gym type setups, Id like something to supplement my fitness efforts as walking alone (even though its usually 8km+ p,er day) isnt doing enough. My blood pressure is the best its ever been, and my resting heart rate is about 55bpm, I shouldnt keel over any time soon, but still not enough

I guess it is because Ive become very fit so far as walking is concerned, and due to the knee pain I can't push myself hard enough to get the heart rate up. Ive just dragged out the mountain bike (funny how 6km on that can kill me far more than double distance walking, must be something to do with the headwind I get every time no matter which way I go). 1km on the orbitrek is even worse

Thought a supported weight set type thing (rather than me trying free weights) would be ideal as a finisher. Had a couple narrowed down and one looks far more extensive than the other though it is cheaper

Home gym set workout | Gym & Fitness | Gumtree Australia Bendigo Surrounds - Elmore

Proteus Studio 3 | Gym & Fitness | Gumtree Australia Bendigo City - Bendigo 3550

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Getting away from the HR discussion and back to your original question.
I wouldn't buy either of these machines and would advise you to stay away from any peck deck machines, as they have a high potential for injury to beginners because of the poor anatomical position of the shoulder, and are used by intermediate and advanced weight lifters.I refuse to have one in my PT studio as there are so many exercises that isolate the chest better.

The first thing I would like to ask is What do you hope to achieve by buying an exercise machine or starting weight training?

Is your goal weight loss, fitness or building strength?

Have you ever used weight equipment before?

The answers to these questions lead to more questions.

From your other posts in this thread you stated that you don't start eating until brunch. This is a no no for losing weight, you need to fire up the metabolism as soon as you get up. My suggestion is to have breakfast while your hubby is toasting his back and eat something (containing a protien source) every three hours and your body will start to burn the fat real quick.

Neale

even before my walk? (milk and cornflakes a sloshin)

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Originally Posted by 1976_michelle

even before my walk? (milk and cornflakes a sloshin)

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...buuUUUUUrrrrpppp!