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    'Australian athletes are not good blokes'. Discuss.

    I read this article from last week on the Friday Experts site and thought it fitting for such a forum.

    Flame away...all opinions welcome.

    "“Australian athletes are not good blokes.”

    Discuss.

    Right then.

    Australian opening batsman David Warner belted English cricketer Joe Root at the Walkabout Hotel in Birmingham this week. Belted him with his fist in anger that is, not with his bat for runs. Warner doesn’t make many runs these days.

    And why did Warner belt him?

    Well apparently Root was wearing a black wig as a beard and impersonating South African batsman Hashim Amla.

    Yes, David Warner was so incensed by the sight of an English batsman mimicking a South African batsman's beard that he had no choice but to defend the South African's honour.

    Either we're missing something, or David Warner is pulling furiously on our legs.

    Warner's got plenty of form when it comes to anti-social behaviour, which is ironic since he hasn't got much form in his chosen place of employment, the cricket pitch.

    But this latest indiscretion is symptomatic of a broader malaise in Australian sport.

    Simply put, Aussie athletes are knobs.

    Consider the Australian cricket team. Fifteen years ago, the occasional angry ant called MacGill was balanced out by a Taylor, Waugh, Gilchrist or Langer. None were perfect, but you'd shout the first ten rounds for the chance to have a beer with them.

    Who among the lambs headed for an Ashes slaughter next month would you even enjoy sitting down for a beer with, let alone consider paying for the privilege? Warner might belt you or abuse you. Pattinson might sing love songs to you. Clarkey will be on Twitter all night. Cowan will take three hours to finish his pint. Haddin or Watson? Not even if they were buying.

    And the cricketers are just the tip of the iceberg.

    Swimmer Nick D'arcy broke a teammate's jaw in a pub and posted a photo of himself posing like a Tarantino gangster in a gun shop beside shotgun-wielding teammate Kenrick Monk. Monk then invented a story about being the victim of a hit and run after falling off his skateboard. Recently-omitted Wallabies Fly Half Quade Cooper was charged with robbing a house in 2010; Wallabies Fullback Kurtley Beale punched his Melbourne Rebels captain in the face on the team bus. Bernard Tomic Bernard Tomic Bernard Tomic Bernard Tomic.

    And that’s before we start on the statesmen who play Rugby League and Aussie Rules.

    How did this happen? Five minutes ago we had Rafter, Larkham, Klim, Tomkins and Waugh. Which vindictive Greek gods did we offend so grievously that we deserved to be punished with James Magnussen, James O’Connor, Shane Watson and Bernard freaking Tomic?

    The bad apples are no longer the exception. They are too numerous, too noticeable. Adam Scott is now in the minority. Social media can take some of the blame, having given these characters a voice without throwing in a free copy of “Human Interaction for Dummies.”

    But, more damningly, these misanthropes are receiving cheques their skills can’t cash. As Richard Hinds noted this week, David Warner is one example of a player who owes his salary to the successes of his predecessors. He has done nothing to deserve his six-figure contract. The same goes for the rest of them. It’s bad enough that they’re failing as human beings. But they’re even failing at the one thing they’re paid astronomical sums to succeed at.

    You can be forgiven for being a second-rate person and a first-rate athlete. You can be forgiven for being a second-rate athlete and a first-rate person. But you can’t be crap at both and still get paid.
    Incidentally, the guilty parties above all share one characteristic to which we alluded back at the beginning.

    They’re blokes.

    Ever since Jana Pittman fled the jurisdiction, Aussie girls have generally let their skills do the talking.

    Sam Stosur won a US Open. Yet you won't see her belting Laura Robson for impersonating Amanda Coetzer. And if she did, you can bet she'd at least make the punch count, unlike Warner's 'glancing blow'.
    Nor do you see Elyse Perry strutting around like she owns the joint even though she plays both soccer and cricket for Australia.

    Two sports.

    Warner, Watson and their overpaid, underachieving mates barely play one.

    Next round is on us, Elyse.

    And so to another week of sport...

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    Careful who you call a misanthrope. I am extremely offended being categorised with some of those sporting nobs mentioned.

    It starts with 'sports psychologists'. I have a very good friend who spent her high school years at the Australian Institute of Sport. Every morning, before even training, they had to go to 'psyche class' where they just got pounded with the message - You are the best. You're better than everyone else. You're a winner, you're nobody if you're a loser. - It's on an on with that sort of thing ad infinitum. Some of them actually start believing it. She hated it; thought it was load of excrement. She has a gold medal from the Pan Pacific games, only missed going to the Olympics due to injury.

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    I've known quite a few professional sports people and there are certain personality traits needed to get them where they get too. A killer instinct goes a long way in helping them to achieve and it's not very nice in action sometimes and hard to switch off. I have seen many extremely talented people fail because they were too nice. I'm not saying that all professional sports people are..errr..not nice, just that it doesn't surprise me in the slightest to find that there are a lot who aren't. Anyone who makes it without a lot of natural talent is usually pretty "tough" in other areas of their personality to compensate.

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    Every move you make......I'll be watching you. Between the media, facebook, twitter, and all the other 'apps" and possible live viewing/ recording/spying/photographic options available to anybody these days another persons life has no privacy at all and if you are any type of celebrity be it sporting or entertainment your life is gonna be beamed internationally via someones satellite to attempt to usurp your progress in life. Many of these incidents (and lots of us here get caught up in some) in the past were not even written down on paper, now somebody always has there phone pointed at you looking for their 5 mins of facebook fame and egotistical kick that must come from bringing someone down.....its pathetic....just go bush.....you never hear about it.....and you know something else? It doesn't change your life.Dennis

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    "But you can’t be crap at both and still get paid."

    Mike,
    You raise an interesting point. Do we cut them some slack because well they are in such a high pressure situation?
    They are professional sportspeople being paid big bucks by you and me effectively to jump on the spot or whatever. If you cant also manage to be a sensible useful memebr of soceity as well as the best spot jumper well then that just makes you stupid and you shouldnt get paid to do it.

    As a soceity our standards are too low for our sportspeople.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roverrescue View Post
    As a society our standards are too low .

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    Now that is a different OT point altogether digger
    But I agree none the less

    S

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    Certainly quite a few nobs around, as mentioned. Footballers seem to be among the worst, recently. Since when did any bloke get the idea its OK to bash women around?
    This certainly seems to be true in politics at the moment. Who's copying each other - the sportspeople or the politicians? Either way, there's a lot of overpaid 'win at any cost' nobs around.

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    Well, to put things in perspective, there are thousands of Sportsmen out there, and only small percentage doing these things. Probably more men in the broader general public do worse, but the media isn't watching them. Doesn't excuse their actions, of course . It seems to me that when A grade football players had to work for a living [ back in the olden days, for you Gen Y people ] that sort of behaviour was knocked out of them by their older workmates before it got out of hand. A little bit of physical discipline bought many a young buck into line, you have to set some peoples boundaries for them, sometimes . Bob
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    hmmm , the only reason these "nobs" are being payed these spectacular wages is because YOU want to watch them on tv and sponsors want their name out in front of everything you see. Every time a sporting programme doesn't meet the scheduled broadcast times the tv stations are swamped with complaints and the sponsors are hard on the tv broadcasters too. The sporting clubs eek out disgusting sums of money to have corporate branding on their players, the players know this and want their share and get it, because without them out there theres no party. If 1% of all sporting sponsorship was given to the poor, there would no poverty in the world. The amount of money given to golf, tennis and soccer players is beyond comprehension....because YOU want to see the spectacle. Its simple if you want to rectify it.

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