Where'sthe justice?

'Man has dominated man to his detriment'

It is as Arthur mentioned human nature to do bad, a supreme effort to do good. Religion has little to do with it IMO.

JC

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Originally Posted by Chucaro

Paying them $220 pw it is about 50% bellow the poverty line which it is a complete stupid and only a policy to look good. It is not a solution.
I would give the chance to the poor buggers providing them with the facilities to integrate in the society in an honorable way.

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I think you may find they are not Australian citizens. They are here under "temporary protection visas". They should not be competing against the unemployed citizens of Australia for a job. The should not be able to integrate into Australia until they become Australian citizens.
But let's not let this thread degenerate into yet another "Illegal Immigrant" thread.

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Originally Posted by digger

So why are we not doing this for our people who want to do it??
for instance:
we cant match the price of oranges from o/s as we cannot use the chemicals they use , theyre banned here -- yet still show larger traces than we used to use in the OJ and fruit coming in??
we cant match their prices...


Why not have a clause about local fruit being exhausted (relating to condition and price) before any imported fruit or juice allowed??

Maybe this mess is because we dont protect our primary industry??.. we are allowing diseased fruit (fireblight) in from NZ because they jacked up about the free trade agreement.. can we now send them some poisonous land snakes and spiders
and insist they take them under the same idea?
No? why is that, because it would be bad for NZ?? MMM interesting they can refuse but we cannot?

Whoever writes these agreements is a fool if there is not a no harm clause!

As for your suggestion, Maybe the Govt should reopen all the old railway workshops, teaching metalwork, woodwork , boilermaking, etc etc and trades
Offer the best trainees a government job and then the rest can be intergrated into the work force (more tradies) on graduating. (at a minimal cost to the employer .)

help our primary industry because it is just that...the PRIMARY industry.

Just a thought.

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Vote 1 - Digger for PM.

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Originally Posted by newlandyowner

Death penalty.

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Could you pull the lever to end someone's life? I couldn't.
What if they're later posthumously proven innocent? Having pulled the lever to take the life of an innocent person, should you be put to death?

Incarceration. No parole. No TV. No comfort. Hard labour in a chain gang sealing roads (refer "Cool Hand Luke").

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Originally Posted by Chucaro

To keep this bastards in prision cost us more that $40000 a year so I am against it.
My proposal is (on the spirit of globalization) "export them" to some "selected"prisons and pay the respective countries $10000 for each prisoner.
Kresty Prison, located in St. Petersburg, Russia can be a good start
Camp 22 in North Korea could be another option
Then again Sabana in Venezuela have the best accomodation

http://amradaronline.files.wordpress...ison.jpg?w=415

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Maybe $40,000 to feed him...

Try $128,500

Deloitte Access Economics Report, released February 2013, 86 pages

In 2011, there were 115 correctional custodial facilities in Australia, and in 2010–11, more than $3 billion was spent on Australian prisons. The estimated annual average cost per prisoner per day in 2012–13 is $315.

I really don't understand how the "do-gooders" can justify making sure prisoners get everything they want, whilst families are condemned to have to sort out their losses of family/friends.
No amount of money will compensate them for their loss,, I don't see the "do-gooders" helping them :mad:, maybe if the shoe was on the other foot, they might think twice about screaming "human rights" for criminals.

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Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

Vote 1 - Digger for PM.

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Mick!! I didnt realise you hated me???? :p

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Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

Could you pull the lever to end someone's life? I couldn't.
What if they're later posthumously proven innocent? Having pulled the lever to take the life of an innocent person, should you be put to death?

Incarceration. No parole. No TV. No comfort. Hard labour in a chain gang sealing roads (refer "Cool Hand Luke").

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If they are proven guilty beyond doubt, like the Jill Meagher case, I sure could pull the lever/trigger. Especially if it happened to some one in my family or I knew.

I'm not saying everyone gets the death penalty, just the ones that are outright guilty in disgusting cases like this.

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Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

Could you pull the lever to end someone's life?

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Without a moment's hesitation. ;)

No difference to pulling the trigger when out eradicating feral dogs / cats.

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Originally Posted by DeeJay

Maybe $40,000 to feed him...

Try $128,500

Deloitte Access Economics Report, released February 2013, 86 pages

In 2011, there were 115 correctional custodial facilities in Australia, and in 2010–11, more than $3 billion was spent on Australian prisons. The estimated annual average cost per prisoner per day in 2012–13 is $315.

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A single old pensioner who has worked all his life earns $ 366.50 per week.
There is something wrong there IMHO :mad:
Start exporting them NOW :mad: