Thread: Sneaky cop's ...

Originally Posted by isuzurover

WA (and NT) have a disproportionately high number of road fatalities. Whether they can be attributed to speed is debatable. The extra fatalities occur on rural highways and are due either to fatigue or speed.

Either way I can see no argument for detectors. However I am in favour of the German system where you need to do >20 km/h over the limit in rural areas before fines apply.

... No doubt their accident rate in rural areas is just SO much higher than ours...

WA's driving record is also a product of 'average' roads, (especially compared to SA) driving aptitude and attitude. - Mainly the latter.
Be warned, WA drivers can't merge...and won't even try. Using indicators to signal a lane-change is often interpreted as a challenge...

We used to have a sneaky copper in the bush, (late last century...) who had the delightful trick of following cars at night, - without lights on. Naturally, the unsuspecting victim could see 'no-one around', nice straight road, late at night... why not open it up a bit...??? When suitably over the limit, the rear-view mirror would be filled with the nasty blue light on top of headlights out of 'nowhere'...
Said victim was usually too surprised to argue the finer points of entrapment.

This bloke had a dream run for around a year or three, before he got his come-uppence. - Potential 'victim' did a 180 degree handbrake spin at 150+ km/h and tail-lights suddenly became headlights/spotlights......

No entrapment laws in Australia even in the US the police or law enforcement have to actively entice you into a crime

The latest thing on the Bruce where it diverts to the gateway. They sit in the bushes in the Center. But no car just a bloke hiding in the bushes with no hi vis. Just there blue gear.

Originally Posted by THE BOOGER

A radar detector will only make you slow down when the alarm goes off, they want you slow down at all times not just when you think a radar is near

Then wouldnt it be better to drop battery/solar powered radar emmiters at black spots. Should be cheap enough to set off a false alarm on your detector.
It seems the cops just want to ban things instead of thinking outside the box. I saw a article a few years ago saying in the US people with detectors were less likely to have a crash. I know I had one I was very conscious of my speed and actauly sped less especialy coming into towns.
They say drive to the conditions, but pulled me over on open roads in perfect conditions

For the majority of people yes that would work but for a small group they would still drive at what they think they and the car are capable of if the detector was not in alarm. Its that small group that all these rules are for and that the cops are trying to catch Sometimes the effort does seem to outweigh the result

Originally Posted by superquag

... No doubt their accident rate in rural areas is just SO much higher than ours...

WA's driving record is also a product of 'average' roads, (especially compared to SA) driving aptitude and attitude. - Mainly the latter.
Be warned, WA drivers can't merge...and won't even try. Using indicators to signal a lane-change is often interpreted as a challenge...

AND ........... seems like Perth drivers in particular have never heard of "KEEP LEFT". If you want to overtake anyone on the freeways here (or on Great Eastern Hwy between Perth and The Lakes) - it's more often than not you will be moving into the left lanes to "undertake" the muppets plodding along in the right lane.

We used to have a sneaky copper in the bush, (late last century...) who had the delightful trick of following cars at night, - without lights on. Naturally, the unsuspecting victim could see 'no-one around', nice straight road, late at night... why not open it up a bit...??? When suitably over the limit, the rear-view mirror would be filled with the nasty blue light on top of headlights out of 'nowhere'...
Said victim was usually too surprised to argue the finer points of entrapment.

This bloke had a dream run for around a year or three, before he got his come-uppence. - Potential 'victim' did a 180 degree handbrake spin at 150+ km/h and tail-lights suddenly became headlights/spotlights......

Back when I was a teenager, there used to be a cop based in Grong Grong NSW (just out of Narranderah) who drove a Highway Patrol Torana GTR who had the same habit. He used to sneak up behind trucks on the Newell Hwy with no lights on and then sit there until the truckie did something wrong. One night while he was sitting behind a semi, the driver "thought he saw a child running out of the bushes onto the road in front of him". He stood on the brakes, hard - not a nice outcome, but I suppose it was inevitable.

Lots of motorcycle cops have been killed like that , including a nice bloke that I knew.
IMHO this makes the truckies involved a homicidal maniac.

Regards Philip A

The rules in Vic are about to be changed. Currently they are not allowed to disguise a camera by putting the jack and spare tyre at rear to look like some one sitting there with a flat, or hide behind trees etc. They are also not supposed to set up at the bottom of hills.

This is about to change so they can get more coin. If this was about road safety and not revenue raising they would put a lot more marked cars out there. I am guilty of using my mobile(talk only NEVER text) as I know the risk of being caught is small.

If they quadripled the amount of police on the roads I might think twice. If they did this it would definitely reduce the amount of people misbehaving, but then revenue would drop.