Reply With Quoteapart from players admitting they took banned substances.Originally Posted by Rohan
Master
"Doing a deal" would presumably mean pleading guilty to bringing the game into disrepute. Will not happen.
Afl/asada clearly can't find any wrongdoing as far as banned substances are concerned, despite what certain members of the media would have you believe.
I'm sure the AFL would love Essendon to "do a Melbourne" and roll over like good little boys. They seem to have picked a fight with the wrong mob.
I think it may lead to a resignation for one of the big fish. Just not quite who Mr Demetriou wanted. A long hard look in a mirror may be required.......
Swaggie
Subscriberapart from players admitting they took banned substances.
Master
If that was true, they'd be banned by now just like Lance Armstrong. Have a think about it, AFL doesn't control Asada, so IF they had admitted taking a BANNED substance it's bye, bye. If 2 or more players, then it's bye, bye club. Wouldn't matter what the AFL says.
As I've said before, until allegations are proved I'll presume innocence.
I did hear a wise man say, "you don't launch an investigation on yourself, unless you know the result."
Swaggie
Subscriberand that what im saying, the afl has let them offIf that was true, they'd be banned by now just like Lance Armstrong. Have a think about it, AFL doesn't control Asada, so IF they had admitted taking a BANNED substance it's bye, bye. If 2 or more players, then it's bye, bye club. Wouldn't matter what the AFL says.
As I've said before, until allegations are proved I'll presume innocence.
I did hear a wise man say, "you don't launch an investigation on yourself, unless you know the result."
Swaggie
As far as I am aware, there are questions to whether the substances were in fact banned. If they were, surely the governing body above the AFL would have stepped in by now.
Let's hope they all come to their senses soon and totally disband the AFL.
AT REST
While the main drug AOD9604 is not listed specifically in S2, as it is not approved for human use it comes under So which prohibits any drug not approved for human use
ChatterBox
That's one sad story. And this, as well as the stupid money involved, is why I don't watch sport anymore.
At any given point in time, somewhere in the world someone is working on a Land-Rover.
Swaggie
Subscriberwhy are they taking any substance?
its walking a dangerous line. call it legal cheating if you want.
Swaggie
I was listening to an athlete (an Australian Olympic swimmer, can't remember her name) give a talk. She was against drugs in sport but gave an interesting example.
Lets say a swimmer was suffering a headache and was finding it difficult to concentrate. In order to alleviate the headache and improve concentration, the swimmer quickly popped a Panadol.
This innocuous drug then becomes a "performance enhancing" drug. Should it be banned? Or should we call it "legal cheating"?
Moderator
These arguments have been around ever since drug testing started.
My personal opinion is that it's only cheating if the substance is illegal, otherwise vitamins, herbs, even fish oil capsules, could be deemed as a performance enhancing supplement and not 'food', so where does it end ?
Substances have been declared illegal, not as they enhance performance but that they may be detrimental to human health.
Too many athletes were keeling over from heart attacks and future lives ruined (eg the East German female swimmers) due to the substances they were taking, but as long as men and latterly women have competed we've all looked for something that would gives us an 'edge', whether it be an non-inflammatory to help us get back into action and back to form more quickly, or a better fuel in the car, it's just the way our ego's are hard wired.
Having a partner that was long listed for a Games and World Championships back in the early nineties and later in the mid 00's and who was pulled in for out of comp testing at various times and having read the books that stated what could and couldn't be ingested, let alone that it was constantly drummed into all the athletes that you and you alone were responsible for what went into your body I can't believe the BS put about by the AFL, Club, players and particularly News Ltd as the rules and procedures have been around for a very, very long time.
If this was cycling News Ltd would be all over it like a rash, screaming long and loud that everyone involved be crucified, but seeing as Uncle Rupert has a financial stake via Foxtel the story gets titled strongly the other way.
How people can't see/aren't aware/don't care about the blatant media bias in this country and seem unable to read between the lines dumbfounds me at times.
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