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It's not quite as clear cut as that.Quote:
Originally Posted by seano87
I've think we're getting off topic.
Getting HIV is a risk when u penetrate someone. Consent or no consent doesn't increase or decrease that risk.
That might sound cold but that's the way it is.
That may be the case, but if you penetrate someone illegally, it's not their fault if you then get HIV.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eevo
Particularly as this woman was unconscious, she couldn't say to said scum sucking parasite of a rapist "Stop, I have HIV"
QED it's not her problem, it's his.
Whos saying its her problem??Quote:
Originally Posted by Disco Muppet
Then we need to look at the questioning of sentencing.
For instance, there's an example of a magistrate giving a rapist a lighter sentence because it was more considerate to have slashed the victims throat before raping her than after. Despite the fact she lived through it all.
Now that's ****ed up.
That's a slight understatement.Quote:
Originally Posted by clubagreenie
The fact that irritates me is the fact that if a person admits to an offence, they're required to receive a lesser sentence :mad:
try and look at it the other way around.Quote:
Originally Posted by Disco Muppet
if they deny they did the offence, they need a bigger punishment to convince them/rehabilitate them.
Doesn't work though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eevo
Studies have shown that harshness of punishment is no-where near as effective a deterrent as certainty of punishment.
Doesn't matter how harsh the punishment is, if the potential offender thinks they're going to get away with it the harshness of the punishment isn't really a consideration.
I just disagree with the idea that if someone commits an act like murder, rape, pedophilia, particularly if they're a repeat offender, then just because they say yes I did it doesn't entitle them to a lesser punishment.
ive read that the death penalty doesnt work as a deterrent at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Disco Muppet
Perhaps because a large majority of the offenders were under the influence of drugs or suffering the withdraws of prescribed drugs for mental issues?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eevo
I do not know but would be interesting to see if there is a independent study about it.
People's views on the effectiveness of punishment as a deterrent depends on what criminological theory they subscribe to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eevo
Classical perspectives assume all humans a rational creatures that make decisions based on the pleasure/pain principle, thus when the expected pleasure of an action exceeds the potential pain that may result, they're more motivated to go ahead with that action.
As such, the punishment of death would be the highest deterrent.
But, the major problem people have with rational choice is that it assumes we're all rational, which as we all know is a bit of a naive idea.
Consider, once someone is sentenced to death, what exactly do they have to lose?