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Well we can't all be rich or nobody would do anything...we'd all be sitting on a beach. It's vital that there are poor people to do all the **** jobs. That especially applies to 3rd world sweat shop factories that allow us to buy products at realistic prices. So next time you are giving advice to poor people about getting off there arses and becoming rich....keep quiet, they are vitally important to rich people as they are. Who else is going to clean the toilets?
Slunnie - you make your living taking people with no skill sets.. And giving them some...
I've met an 85yr old woman who had just finished her degree... Been a cleaner all her working life...
What is entertaining is the way people define Rich and Poor.
Actually with the NSW and Qld govt's new rules we are creating a new group of poor called the public servant.
An industrial relations commission that MUST rule in favour of the state Govt. in any public servant bought case.:eek:
Maximium of 2.5% pay rise whilst the pollies themselves get 2-3 times that:twisted:
And finally the one that will soon bite us all in the bum, no job security if they are doing their job correctly. This means that in the future if a public servant looks at a policy proposed by a minister and says "this will be hideously expensive/environmentally destructive/dangerous to peoples health" or as happened to Labour "we did not totally review that and therefore that claim is not true. " These public servants can be fired for saying something the Pollie in charge does not like or embarrasses the pollie. This means all reports will say what the sitting Govt wants!
I think there will be varying opinions on what rich is and what poor is, just like there are varying opinions on what old is and what young is. My opinion is that a wage earner in most cases is neither rich or poor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tombie
Edit, ok, we're thinking along the same.
Pay rise? We have had less than CPI for 5 years...
Markets aren't as plentiful and unless the business makes a top profit why should it share to wealth?
Why does everyone expect a pay rise?!
Should they not be performance based :)
Those that worked hard and made the business money got a good deal.
Those who didn't - were rewarded in kind.
That's a fair incentive.
I'm not at work to carry anyone.
This is completely simple anybody who earns more than me (no matter how much I earn) is rich.
There are a large number of people who earn more than me, there are also a larger number of people who earn less than me. Realistically thinking, I am very well off (after all I drive a D3 and SWMBO drives a BMW 320c :D). But we live in a very ordinary 3br suburban house. Compared to my wife's relatives in Peru (including a couple of doctors and colonel of police) we have it easy. The doctor's daughter had to stop University for a couple of semesters because he couldn't afford the fees at the time.
It seems to me that people are happy to try and live above their means, got to have the big McMansion, pool, three cars, the boat etc and then complain once they have got it that the cost of living is too great.
It seems in this country now; the more you have the more you whinge.
perhaps we should all migrate back to Europe.
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Originally Posted by Tombie
i agree noone is born with a skill set but some people are born more capable than others.Quote:
Originally Posted by EchiDna
And a few are born into money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eevo
You mean have a mindset not aligned to their capability or skill set...Quote:
Originally Posted by Eevo